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Q, W, X (or nationalists and chauvinists are so mentally blocked)
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40.       birdy
245 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 11:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Kurds are not foreigners of Turkey..

 

Because ´some Turks see them as foreigners´ was  part of the reason why we had the kurdish problem in the first place..

 

 I have never met a Turk who claimed Kurds are foreigners.On the contrary those I met called them brothers and sisters and had large circle of Kurdish friends.

All I met wanted to leave in peace and bring up their kids for better future,ready to forget differences and harm.

41.       mltm
3690 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 11:40 pm

Now there´s a debate over adding these three letters to the alphabet. What will we hear next?

If they are not added, it means that you do not accept the Kurdish existence.

Why do not just the letters stay in their own alphabet? Kurdish can be taught at schools with their own alphabet if that is what is wanted. You do not change your alphabet when you teach english at schools.

 

I think this has become the new strategy to get what you want. Demanding something extreme to get the thing that is below the extreme as degree (and the thing you really want). It´s really an efficient technique talking from my personal experience.



Edited (9/29/2009) by mltm

42.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 11:50 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

you don`t accept my name as it`s written in Turkish in America. Should I be offended?

 

 They will to0 accept Hassovanni!Big smile  And yes you should be offended!

43.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 12:43 am

 

Quoting mltm

Now there´s a debate over adding these three letters to the alphabet. What will we hear next?

If they are not added, it means that you do not accept the Kurdish existence.

Why do not just the letters stay in their own alphabet? Kurdish can be taught at schools with their own alphabet if that is what is wanted. You do not change your alphabet when you teach english at schools.

 

I think this has become the new strategy to get what you want. Demanding something extreme to get the thing that is below the extreme as degree (and the thing you really want). It´s really an efficient technique talking from my personal experience.

 

 

The next thing they will want is to change the name of the country to Kurdistan. Because it`s a crime of humanity to force the Kurds to live  in a country whose name is not Kurdistan.

 

44.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 12:45 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 They will to0 accept Hassovanni!Big smile  And yes you should be offended!

 

wish that was the only thing that offends me in America. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) It`s not so difficult to live with that.

45.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 12:59 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

The next thing they will want is to change the name of the country to Kurdistan. Because it`s a crime of humanity to force the Kurds to live  in a country whose name is not Kurdistan.

 

I think your ignorance stems really from your hatred, because some crucial facts have been explained too many times for any half brained person to get it. I think you have NO right to complain about American nationalists, because your behavior is the exact Turkish equivalent.

46.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 01:56 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

I think your ignorance stems really from your hatred, because some crucial facts have been explained too many times for any half brained person to get it. I think you have NO right to complain about American nationalists, because your behavior is the exact Turkish equivalent.

 

I don`t remember anyone wanting Americans to change their alphabet to better suit their language. actually, even an imbecile  could figure out the difference.

47.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 02:17 am

 

Quoting mltm

Now there´s a debate over adding these three letters to the alphabet. What will we hear next?

If they are not added, it means that you do not accept the Kurdish existence.

Why do not just the letters stay in their own alphabet? Kurdish can be taught at schools with their own alphabet if that is what is wanted. You do not change your alphabet when you teach english at schools.

 

I think this has become the new strategy to get what you want. Demanding something extreme to get the thing that is below the extreme as degree (and the thing you really want). It´s really an efficient technique talking from my personal experience.

 

I dont think so Mltm..

I dont think it is a great deal to add those letters to the alphabet..

As I said, we are already using those letters in our lives anyway..

It only matters to a few nationalists Turk really.. I still insist that it is a mantel blockage!!

Otherwise you can not logically explain why some of our OWN citizen´s wish to use those letters should make people jump and down with childish furry..

As if the alphabet we use is a pure Turkish invention and adding those 3 letters will take that Turkish invention from us.. As if it is an alphabet we inherited from our ancestors!!

It is really comical!!!

48.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 02:57 pm

Pfffffff

Once more!!!!

The topic is

Some letters being missing from Turkish alphabet, how they went missing in the first place, why the other Turkish speaking countries accepted those letters and we do not, why we are unable to rectify it and why on earth some people would not object abd mind the name Brunswick when writing  and not changing it to Brunsvik but would object to its own citizen having a name ´Walet´ .!!!

 

49.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 05:04 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

I don`t remember anyone wanting Americans to change their alphabet to better suit their language. actually, even an imbecile  could figure out the difference.

 

 That´s because the Romans had already perfected it for us.Big smile

50.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:14 am

It´s a complex issue. A nation´s language (and consequently its notation) are part of heritage and culture. Turkish notation as we know it today is a relatively new thing. I think it would be wrong to force a language to include sounds that are not typical for this language, I might be a bit biased though because of my love of linguistics

 

Adding "Kurdish" letters to an already existing perfect system of notation would be an unnecessary action corrupting Turkish.

 

it is another issue, however, whether to recognise minority´s right to use their system of notation while registering birth etc. Since the discussed letters already exist on all keyboards used in Turkey, it might be a nice gesture on behalf of the Turkish government to allow Kurds celebrate their ethnicity officially. On the other hand, all minorities might demand similar decision for their systems of notation...

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