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30.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 07:11 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I assume they have Holand citizenship, right? and you don´t have those letters in your alphabet?

 

And I think there are some claims by Turks about it as this link reports.

 

 They have not all Dutch citizenship, some have a 5-year visa. We don´t have these letters in our alphabet/language though we use sometimes loanwords from France (ç ) or Germany (ü ) who have. The þ, ð, ý and ö can be demanded as well, I don´t know if they exist in other languages.



Edited (9/29/2009) by Trudy
Edited (9/29/2009) by Trudy

31.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 07:14 pm

 

Quoting cedars

 

 

 Does this apply to all languages or just latin alphabets, I mean can one use arabic, hebrew, persian, japanese, chinese etc etc  alphabets ? !!!!  I strongly doubt, the situation would be so confusing

 

 It only applies to the Latin alphabet, simply because we can´t read others. Sure, most of us don´t know Turkish but even with a bad pronunciation we can say names and we can write them. That´s not the case with the other types of alphabet, so sorry for those people....

32.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 09:01 pm

In Poland you cannot register a name with letters that the Polish alphabet doesn´t have. Thus if, say, your name has ö it will most likely be recorded as oe. It´s the same in Ireland - they cannot record characters specific to the Polish alphabet so instead of Ł they´ll put L, A instead of Ą.

 

I don´t think minorities whose language is not an official language of the country they live in should be able to register names with the letters the official alphabet lacks. However, they should have the right to have their own press and media in their own language.

33.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 09:10 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

In Poland you cannot register a name with letters that the Polish alphabet doesn´t have. Thus if, say, your name has ö it will most likely be recorded as oe. It´s the same in Ireland - they cannot record characters specific to the Polish alphabet so instead of Ł they´ll put L, A instead of Ą.

 

I don´t think minorities whose language is not an official language of the country they live in should be able to register names with the letters the official alphabet lacks. However, they should have the right to have their own press and media in their own language.

 

is  ö the same thing as oe? ok than we have the same thing in Turkey too, for example if your name has ph it will be recorded as f. see they are the same things!Big smile

34.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 09:39 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

In Poland you cannot register a name with letters that the Polish alphabet doesn´t have. Thus if, say, your name has ö it will most likely be recorded as oe. It´s the same in Ireland - they cannot record characters specific to the Polish alphabet so instead of Ł they´ll put L, A instead of Ą.

 

I don´t think minorities whose language is not an official language of the country they live in should be able to register names with the letters the official alphabet lacks. However, they should have the right to have their own press and media in their own language.

 

I am not sure considering Kurds as minorities will be right thing to do..Minorities and their  rights  were mentioned in Treaty of Lausanne.

Kurds are not mentioned over there for example..

Apart from everything, those letter are being used in daily life anyway..

If we are able to do write George Washington as George Washington not as “Vasington”, why should not we show the same flexibility to our own people?

It is all in mental blockage of nationalists..Not in daily life..

 

 

35.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 09:49 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

is  ö the same thing as oe? ok than we have the same thing in Turkey too, for example if your name has ph it will be recorded as f. see they are the same things!Big smile

 

We normally use f instead of ph but in most cases we keep the original name as long as there are no funny characters

 

The H - can you really write Vaþington? Wow! In Polish we write Washington but read it with v, not w. In Czech they have this cute rule to apply feminine endings to female names - thus listening to the news you get Steffi Graffova, Nicole Kidmanova etc

36.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 10:25 pm

I don´t know..I think I would be offended if registering in another country and they didn´t spell my name correctly... What´s the big deal really?  Do you know how many ways you can spell Lori here in the states...what if you were told sorry we will only accept this way!

37.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 10:28 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I don´t know..I think I would be offended if registering in another country and they didn´t spell my name correctly... What´s the big deal really?  Do you know how many ways you can spell Lori here in the states...what if you were told sorry we will only accept this way!

 

you don`t accept my name as it`s written in Turkish in America. Should I be offended?

38.       birdy
245 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 10:36 pm

it is really rideculous,languages differ,have different letters and sounds.Isn´t it rideculous to demand proper spelling in case of  foreign names of which there are no equivalents in country´s alphabet?Try to imagine spelling Chinese or Japanese ones in Latin way.

39.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 10:43 pm

 

Quoting birdy

it is really rideculous,languages differ,have different letters and sounds.Isn´t it rideculous to demand proper spelling in case of  foreign names of which there are no equivalents in country´s alphabet?Try to imagine spelling Chinese or Japanese ones in Latin way.

 

Kurds are not foreigners of Turkey..

 

Because ´some Turks see them as foreigners´ was  part of the reason why we had the kurdish problem in the first place..

40.       birdy
245 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 11:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Kurds are not foreigners of Turkey..

 

Because ´some Turks see them as foreigners´ was  part of the reason why we had the kurdish problem in the first place..

 

 I have never met a Turk who claimed Kurds are foreigners.On the contrary those I met called them brothers and sisters and had large circle of Kurdish friends.

All I met wanted to leave in peace and bring up their kids for better future,ready to forget differences and harm.

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