Actually..

I was trying to explain in other threads. As a country we do not accept that Kurds are minorities.

Infact, We always denied that Kurds were minority..

Minorities are jews, greeks and armenians only (or at least Turkey treats only those 3 groups as minority).

When you are accepted as a minority you get serious rights!! Your language, your religion are being protected by the laws..

Kurds have never been considered as minority legely!!

If it was, it could have been easier and people´s mentality would be ready for giving ´this type of rights as  their basic rights´

 And also, apart from the definition of monitorities in Turkey, the perception of minorities is completely different when you compare Turkey and EU..

In a nutshell, in EU anybody who is not majority is considered as minority..And simply they try to treat these people who are not in majority as majority.

It means whatever the majority has as their rights, monorities will have the same rights!!

Providing the education in minority  language is one of their rights for example.

Because citizens who blong to the minority group must  have  the same rights as the  majority.

yes we can. it`s the same sound as "v". just because some indo european idiots have came up with totally nonesense letters it doesn`t mean they are all distinct sounds.

The Turkish alphabet is perfect in terms of assigning only one definite sound to each single letter, and there is definitely no need to pollute it. 

in fact, if you`ve ever studied the phonetic alphabet you will notice that the Turkish alphabet is almost the same as the phonetic alphabet.

Apart from the fact that famous mental racist blockage, there is a missing (historical) knowledge as well..

The alphabet is not ours.. I mean it is not a kind of thing we Turks invented it..

In the end, we took it from someone else!!!

So ´ah, our language is getting contaminated is a bit of rubbish´

One of the letters is Q for example..

And Turkish K makes ´ka´ sound (which is taken from arabic ´Kaf )´ We do not have a sound ´ke´, ´ki´ or ´kü´ for example..

That is part of the reason why we Turks will NOT loose anything at all..

In the end, the alphabet is just a symbol..If necessary you change it (as we did less than 100 years ago).

This is not an alphabet problem basically. Changing  our alphabet is not worth arguing. It should have been a very simply thing to do but the problem is the mentality here 

it`s true that some morons don`t even know what a "sound" means and they will even say that there is no the "sjkdgdejkdicfvmn" sound in the Turkish alphabet or argue that the Turkish alphabet is flawed because it doesn`t have certain Arabic sounds, but I can assure you that the Turkish alphabet suits the Turkish language perfectly. why it should include arabic sounds as well is beyond me. I don`t remember using an arabic sound speaking in Turkish before, if some people do, it`s not the problem of Turks.

I think you´re taking things too far, TheH, after all there is no need to change the Turkish notation. It works just fine for Turkish words and that´s all a notation should do. The language Kurds speak is not Turkish, is it? And since it´s not, why should the Turkish alphabet change?

Registering Kurdish names and double place names are a different issue and do not require changing the Turkish alphabet. I found it rather shocking that Kurds are not a recognised minority, after all, they are a pretty distinct ethnic group, aren´t they? I believe it´s enough if they are a recognised minority and then are treated like any other one.

the question is Do they want to be a minority? I hope this quote from the famous Kurdish fascist Musa Anter enlightens you;

"So we will get the arid lands of the south east while The Turks get Istanbul, Izmir, Ankara, the abundant lands of the west? We are not dumb, Istanbul will be ours too just like Ankara"

I think i should also note that this guy was also known as "ape Musa". That`s pretty self explanatory.

Well said Sui....+++++

and I agree 100%

  What i observed is, people are very disturbed about this initive issue, because people dont know anything about the contents, they are hiding it like a secret. So it was not supported by the people except the kurdish racists and the ones who are willing to advertise themselves, dont try to fool people here. I ask again what Kurds want from Turkish Republic rather than other ethnicities have.  Kurds have the right of being turkish citizen but they thrust this aside and they prefer to segregate that is Kurdish racism supported by imperialists of course, and because of this Turks gave begun to question the Kurds in every part of life for a few years, this increases the tension between Kurds and Turks.

In Turkey there are millions of people from different ethnicities living, none of them has problems except the Kurds who creates problem for themselves.  They can be parliamentarian even prime minister, Kurds too, so what is the problem? Why do Kurds always the only ethnicity used by colonial imperialists who cannot still digest the Turkish war of Independence.  Turks are witnessed lots of hypocrisy through past decades.  They had seen how Kurds tried to seek asylum in European countries by spreading lies like "We Kurds are being tortured, oppressed in Turkey, no equal opportunities for Kurds.". When the issue is complaining about Turkey in Europe they easily say they are Kurds, but when they are caught committing a crime, they proudly say they are Turks. While they are supporting terrorists freely in Europe, they can talk about democracy-human rights, what a terrible conflict is this.

Now lets talk about the truth, why other eyhnicities do not terrorize the country but Kurds? Why always we see Kurds dealing with illegal organizations such as terrorism, extortions, honor killings, drug smuggling, women trade, selling girls like goods? Why only Kurds are disturbed by being Turkish citizen? Why only kurds have inferiority complex? Why only Kurds request everything from state, why only Kurds accusing everyone except themselves rather than self-criticism? Why only Kurds spreading the lie of that they are being assimilated whereas we still see Kurdish people who do not know a single Turkish word?

For instance we have Turks with Arabic origin, who speaks Arabic in daily life at the same time they can speak Turkish very welll and no problem for them to be presented as Turkish. Kurds say they request education but they support the terrorist leader who killed teachers that sent to educate Kurds. Kurds say they want job but they support terrorists who are sabotaging the enterprises always. Kurds say they cannot learn their languages, state opened Kurdish courses which was closed because of phlegm.

Nobody ever said in Turkey to Kurds "you cannot do this job, you cannot enter this city.".  There are many Kurds among the richest people of Turkey. So what happened to their lie of "not having equal opportunity"?

But still these Kurdish fascists talking about democracy and human rights, i wonder where are those merits when they are stoning women and children? Where are those merits when they are attacking police with molotov-cocktails or when they are setting fire to buses, cars in Istanbul for example? They will realize human rights and democracy by killing people and causing terrorism, sorry but people do not believe these lies anymore.

Lastly if Kurds are still supporting these terrorist acts, they should first look at themselves. The ones who want justice and rights as they put forward, firstly should respect the people of Turkey and Turkey´s unity. People of Turkey never liked the pawns and i hope this hadnt been changed.

 So if akp is negotiating with terrorist leader, and i agree with you surprisingly , why do they hesitate to announce this and why are they denying the claims that they are negotiating?  One of the aim of terrorism in that is to make Turkish habitants escape from that region and they succeeded, very few Turkish citizens living there except Kurds. By the way as far as i know sympathizing with terrorist pkk is forbidden in this forum, is it not? Anyways, we got used to see those who are always talking about democracy and at the same time supporting terrorism, no problem for me.

It´s called creative trolling, I guess.

Creative trolling

The nature of trolling is to be disruptive, and one of the most disruptive things that can be done is to find new ways to cause trouble that are not quite against the rules. No matter how great your definition of trolling may be, a dedicated troll will find something you have not thought of yet.

This, then, is something of a catch-all category — if a user is being continually disruptive, and no amount of politeness, consensus, mediation, or anything else is reining them in, they are trolling. When a user, in a conflict of any sort, insists on the letter of a rule while grossly violating its spirit, this is often a sign of trolling.

Recognising Kurds as minority was very important topic during the negotiations of Lausanne treaty. The British delagate insisted on it much but finally Turkish side won because it was a give-and-take and in return British side managed to keep apart Mosul and Kirkuk from Turkish territory. They however didn´t forget it and they are still after it. Imperial powers didn´t like the Lausanne treaty at all. Because they failed on their plans on Anatolia badly.

I don´t think Kurds want to be a minority in Turkey. This is a EU project and they keep pushing on it for obvious reasons.