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Thread: Survey: Neighborhood pressure is rare in Turkey, but intolerance is not

221.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 09:04 pm

What im curious about is...where did they gather the samples of their survey ?!

Ý mean, they are talking about Türkiye, then that means they went West, North, East and south of Türkiye, they asked people at the villages as well ?!

Doubting it !



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

222.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 09:00 pm

Quoting Trudy

 

 

When Muslim/Turkish/Arab people mock about Christians I´ve never heard of groups in western countries demonstrating in the streets, burning flags, attacking embassies etc. People in the ´West´ shrug and think ´they´re mad´. Is it really a question of long toes?

 

Ý havet heard/seen cartoon or something alike about Ýsa ´SA´  Jesus made by Muslims/Arabs/Turks...is there ?!



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

223.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 08:55 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

In my country denial of the Holocaust is punishable by law. Denying that horrible event is according to the law an immense insult and a form of discrimination. These days there is a discussion in parliament about it. Should it be allowed to say the Holocaust never happened because freedom of speech is more valuable than the denial and people should be able to speak up their minds without limitation? Parties, politicians and others fight each other about it. During my travels I´ve met some people all over the world who did deny it, maybe because they were not too smart, maybe because they´re antisemite, I don´t know.

 

I have two questions for you:

 

Is the denial of the Holocaust also forbidden and punishable by law in your country?

If so, should it stay that way or do you think that freedom of speech is more important?

 

 No its not.

Denial of god is not punishable  by law but denial of the Holocaust is punishable by law in many of the Western countries, isnt that irony ?! lol

Ý have a question for you

Arabs are semite

So why when attacking them or even more ...it doesnt considered to be antisemite like it is with jewish?



Thread: Denial versus freedom of speech

224.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 08:49 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

You are entitled to have this opinion, just like others are as well to have theirs... I think that it´s really sad that some people do not understand why someone would draw and publish these cartoons. Maybe it´s cultural incompetence? Lack of respect/understanding of other people´s culture? It seems to be something of that sort, which means that they are acting like little children who expect to be taken care of, as opposed to doing their part in the process of gaining mutual understanding/respect..

You can acknowledge that there was harm done - in your opinion - by the cartoons, but it would be desirable if you and poeple who agree with you could understand the other side, instead of objectifying and demonizing them in simplistic ways.

 

 Actually my dear cat we understood alright

People from other believes belittle ours make fun of it and targeting our prophet in a very low way.

Freedom of speech ?

Hmmm, would anyone consider it freedom of speech if others called him stupid ,..etc or would you rather call it insult ?!

Ýn this point i dont get it, what should i exactly ralay it on culture differences ?!

You mean, i should consider it common in Western culture for people to insult their prophets and others should accept it and consider it as freedom of speech ?!

Ýf so, then pardon me, how can you believe in someone and you insult him ?!!!

Ýf you do this in your culture, we dont do this in ours, actually its not logic that i insult something and at same time i be devoted and believe in it/ him  !

Beside, we dont force people to believe in our religion, we dont insult or attack other people´s religions, so by no way i get it, why people attack or criticise ours

They dont like, fine, stay away from it, let´s believe what we like to believe and you believe what you wish to believe.

´We have our believes and you have yours ´ simple as that !

But you insult our believes and consider it freedom of speech ?!

Ýnsult is an insult...that is what we understand...and thank god for that  ÃMO !

 

PS: ´you´ is a general term



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

225.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 May 2009 Sat 06:00 am

When they verify the differences between the modal and the auxiliary verbs cleary, they can start differentiate between them...and NOT a second BEFORE ..´head banging´

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and no smileys too !



Thread: Possible marriage ban for under-age Saudi girls

226.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 May 2009 Sat 05:51 am

Ý believe the age of marriage should be the same age where the  parts dont considered to be children.

Mostly the  end of childhood be at the age of 18 th so starting from that age they can get married.

Ýts not logical if they are 16 and we still consider them to be children in the constitution and then allow them to get married !



Thread: Herzlich Willkommen

227.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 May 2009 Sat 05:36 am

 

Quoting TheVineyards

Well I am back, dunno how much contribution my having just seen Issiz Adam has had in this decision but I think my biggest concern for the time being is to lose this grotesque  "the" before my good old nick.

 

 

 

 Willkommest du Vineyards !

Ýf i remember how to say it correctly lol

Good to see you back, and am sure admin can do something about that...´the´ thing you are having.



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

228.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 May 2009 Sat 05:21 am

 

Quoting si++

 Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoðan´s attacks against Israel into Gaza´s shown in the reaction of the Davos is emphasized in this role.


, thanks to more than 2 million Arab tourists to Turkey on holiday

 

 

 

 By NO way Erdoðan was a fool back then, huh ?!

And you can add the Nato thing to that too !

That man is REALLY smart and incredible, he has both my fully respect and admiration

Erdogan Says Rasmussen Pick Would Damage NATO

Turkey agreed to NATO chief after Obama pledges

Ýn Turkey, new NATO chief listens to Muslims

Ýn my humble opinion, in one hand he is drawing arab´s money to Türkiye, and from the other hand, Türkiye is not taken for granted !



Edited (5/9/2009) by CANLI



Thread: Identity or services? Kurds said ´identity´

229.       CANLI
5084 posts
 03 Apr 2009 Fri 04:43 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well..

If  someone posts something and if the others are coming with swearings instead of posting a counter argument and you say the swearing itself is part of heated discussion and you should take it, sorry from my part..

I will never take any swearing under any circumstances.

If you are saying that ´do not post´ these things because they will swear at you, you bring a  different question here, which is ´if we should refrain ourselves from posting because of swearings´.

It is a though situation yani..

 

 Ã dont see any swearing at the thread handsom, so i fail to understand what are you talking about ?!

Or are you referring to other threads so thats why being aggressive to other people here ?!

Still i cant see any relation, as you are free to post, people are also free to like it or not, and also free to express it or not

As AE said, its a public forum, and regarding to our rules as you know, they can say and pots anything they want, related or not related to the topic too .

 

What i find it really amýsing, is that when Turks ´as in group´ complain and say what you are saying isnt correct, you claim because they want to hide the facts, and now when also Kurd complain and say you are one sided, you said its none of their business.

Whose business is it then handsom ?!

 



Thread: what caught my eye today

230.       CANLI
5084 posts
 03 Apr 2009 Fri 04:28 am

And also chiko ?!!!

Thats strange !

All in one day ?!!!!!



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