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Thread: The Opposite Of...

231.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 05:33 am

My mistake, i forgot the ´Ã½ ´ but modified it

Ý meant karþý

Karþý in English means

1. the place opposite.
2. facing, opposite

Yanýnda means

Beside

 

Ýf i want the opposite word to Karýþý in Turkish what would it be ?

Ý want to say for example, the place at same line with the building

What would it be to describe it ?

Would Yanýnda work ?

So we can say

Karýþý X yanýnda, or what ?



Thread: Freedom of Speech

232.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 03:50 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Sui was praising a guy who was a well known fascist and associated with killings of some people (They were killed beacuse of their religion, because of their political orientations)

Nobody has said ´well he deserved´..that is just your perception and understanding!!

You understand that way..That is the cultural difference..(and that cultural difference is nothing to do with east and west!!!)

 

 Along with Sui, Jan, and chiko who happened to be also Easterns and Turk ?!

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_39961_-1

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

You understand that way..That is the cultural difference..(and that cultural difference is nothing to do with east and west!!!)

Let me use that same statment of yours reply to you.

Ýt express cultural differences indeed which has NOTHÝNG to do with East and West !

 

Ps: will reply to the other post later when i have enough time.



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI [adding the ps]



Thread: What is your mood today?

233.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 03:04 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

So what are you doing here at 2:07am your time? Off to your books young lady! I will get you

Here´s a cuppa to help you stay awake

http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/turkish_coffee.jpg

 

 Fooled by TLC as usual Rant lol

Thought a visit would be just few mints...i should have known better Head bang

Ý will take both of them if i may thank you lol

Btw, thanks for the ´young lady´ complément´Flowers

Havent been called such for quite sometime now...say..mmmm 1 or 2 years ?! Angel  lol

 



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI



Thread: Freedom of Speech

234.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 02:38 am

Ý was planning to give my 2 pennies in short after reading the thread overall, i should have known better, visiting TLC always takes more time than expected lol

 

Ok overall i agree with some here and disagree with some.

Ý agree with Jan on somethings and also agree with cat at another things.

Of course there are culture differnces, and what is acceptable to some, not acceptable to others

What can be seen as freedom of speech to some, can be seen as crossing the lines to others with degrees.

What can be seen by some as crap and they are glad they have changed their concept about it, can be seen by others as a respectable concepts and they do NOT want to change it to something else.

They are convinced by what they believe and dont want to change it

As you may see that is wrong and should be changed, they also see what you believe is wrong too.

Judging this as crap actually isnt a right of anyone at all

As it is not my right to judge those who have change in their concepts or those who have another concept to begin with.

Taking that thread of helicopter crash as an example.

A man died, and Sui wanted to share his feelings here with us, sad and worried ´before his death confirmed´ so first thing to say...well he deserved, he was such a bad guy ?!

By any mean is this acceptable ?!

To us..nope

Debate being carried away, and some try to make that clear that we should respect the dead, the man blood wasnt even dried yet !

So would the answer be that is a stupid tradition to respect the dead and its crap ?!

Ý dont think so !

 

We have differences in culture and we are all aware of that...as you demand others to have a space of freedom in the speech and to differentiate between criticism and expression one opinion and insults

Would it be that hard to respect also the concepts, traditions  of others too ?!

Somethings you see like freedom of speech in other culture its crossing the lines, exactly at in that thread

Respecting the dead!

Our traditions maybe strange to some of you, some dont understand, some dont want to understand, other think its nonsense and they are happy they dont believe in them any more but its not like that to us

Ýf we REALLY dont believe in them we wouldnt demanding to respect them, mutual respect.

 

Numbers of Turks and Easterns here are not much, not as same as Westerns, so their voices are not as stronger as Westerns too, but that doesnt mean what they believe and think is wrong and what Westerns believe and think is right.

 

Ým sorry that i had to use those 2 words which cause lots of arguments before but the case is culture differences

Like it or not, we have it, not only here at TLC but in the outside world too.

Hopefully we can sort our things here at TLC and reach some sort of understanding between us.

 

Ok that is more than 2 pennies...and im running out of time, see you guys !



Thread: Freedom of Speech

235.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 02:04 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Lets start:

-National anthem. I remember saying that music our national anthem ´might have been taken´ somewhere from the west from a song called ´Carmen Silva´. 

By saying this, do you think i am disrespecting our national anthem? 

I have also critizised the words in our national anthem by saying that it contains some racist words..

This is the first two section we keep singing 30 times a week :

 

Fear not! For the crimson flag that proudly ripples in this glorious twilight, shall not fade,

Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my nation is extinguished.

For That is the star of my nation, and it will forever shine;

It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation.


Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent,

But smile upon my heroic race! Why the anger, why the rage? ¹

This blood of ours which we shed for you shall not be blessed otherwise;

For Freedom is the absolute right of my God-worshiping nation.

 

I am saying what I said before again!!

By saying this, do you think i am disrespecting our national anthem? 

If some people think so, and raging with anger because of me saying that thenm too bad for them..

They can say whatever they like!! I did not care what they said previously, there is no indication from my part that I will take them more seriously this time..

 

-

-And about respecting the dead people; because he died etc..

I have every single right to ´not to feel sorry´ about a person who died and I have every right to ´not to respect´ a person because he died..

As I said you can accuse me about it as much as you can accuse ´a Chilian not feeling sorry because of Pinochet died´. 

And I made it claer about it in the relevant thread when I said, I can bring you the list about what murders he was associated with´. 

 

 

 lol have you said that handsom about the Turkish anthem ?! lol

What would you expect an anthem to say if not praise the country and the people with proud too?!

For example, what would you expect people who pay their blood in the battle field to say ?

As i remember you were/ are also against ´´ happy who is Turk ´´ ...yes ?!

What would you expect a Turk to say then ?

Happy who is American, brit, French ..?!

Again Turk are sons and daughters of Türkiye, not a race

 

We have similar saying too ´´if im not an Egyptian, i would loved to be an Egyptian´´

Being proud of who you are isnt something bad, is it ?!

Same also our National anthem praise our nation and our people, what would it praise then ?!

 

My country, my country, my country.
You have my love and my heart.

Mýsýr ´Egypt´! O mother of all lands,
My hope and my ambition,
And on all people
Your Nile has countless graces

My country, my country, my country,
My love and my heart are for thee.

Mýsýr ´Egypt´! Most precious jewel,
Shining on the brow of eternity!
O my homeland, be for ever free,
Safe from every foe!

My homeland, my homeland, my homeland,
My love and my heart are for thee.

Mýsýr ´Egypt´! Noble are your children,
Loyal, and guardians of the reins.
It will attain high aspirations
With their unity and with mine.

My homeland, my homeland, my homeland,
My love and my heart are for thee.

Mýsýr ´Egypt´, land of bounties
You ruled with ancient glory
My purpose is to repel the enemy
And on God I rely.
 

And as for the dead people, you dont show respect to the person...there is no more person handsom, he already died, you show respect to the death of that person.

To the idea that he is no longer here .

Ýts part of our culture and surely you are aware of it very well because its also yours

Not everything belong to our culture is a bad thing handsom !

You can show your disapproval with him later, but not at the same moment that person died !

 

Btw handsom, do you find anything  about Türkiye, Turks, traditions..etc that you like at all ?! Seems to me in your opinions, all are wrong and should be changed !

Just wondering !



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI



Thread: The words you have learned today.

236.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 12:51 am

Dev aynasýnda = giving things/person more than its weight ´more than it/he deserve´



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI



Thread: -EREK -ARAK suffixes (Explanation needed)

237.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 12:07 am

Quoting qdemir

It is the gerunds of state. The gerunds of state -erek / -arak is formed by adding -erek / -arak to the verb base: yürü-y-erek, koþ-arak, çalýþ-arak, dinle-y-erek, anla-y-arak, ("y" is the buffer letter)… When the suffix -erek / -arak is added to the verbs “demek” and “yemek” the “e” in the verb bases changes to “i”: diyerek, yiyerek. The gerunds of state -erek / -arak is used to express how the action occured, or in what manner it occured. It corresponds to “……ing” or “by ……ing” in English. The important point is: the gerunds of state -erek / -arak is used in the sense of “while”. That’s, the main action occurs while an other action is going on. Çocuklar koþarak parka gittiler. (The children went to the park by running.) Taksim’den Beþiktaþ’a yürüyerek gittik. (We went to Beþiktaþ from Taksim on foot) Gözlerinin içine bakarak “seni seviyorum” dedi. (Looking into her eyes “I love you” he said.) Titreyerek ellerimi kaldýrdým. (Trembling, I raised my hands.) Mehmet kapýyý çarparak odadan çýktý. (Mehmet went out of the room by slamming the door.)

 

You can find more about it here

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_9863_-1



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI [font]



Thread: The Opposite Of...

238.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 Apr 2009 Thu 12:01 am

What are the opposite words of those ?

Karýþý

Yanýnda ?

 



Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI
Edited (4/2/2009) by CANLI



Thread: What is your mood today?

239.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:52 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 I think she means she has a deadline to meet with her studies Big smile  I know the feeling Confused

 

 Exactly, but in my case its more like a dead end, not a deadline

Deadline was last week, dead end is this week Scaredlol



Thread: What is your mood today?

240.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 03:30 am

Bored of the fact that i have close dead end ! Head bang



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