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Thread: Some maps of Israel and Palestine

761.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 09:12 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

It´s unbelievable to observe how the Israeli occupation has blown out of proportion. What´s even more scary is how unpunishable they feel. I sincerely hope the rest of the world will finally take measures other than sending letters condemning Israel or asking for explanations. For now it seems only the individual approach boycotting Israeli produce is something that can be done.

 

yes....then there is this one....This is a controverial map, but it is based on the term "from the Nile to the Euphrates". The original map submitted by the first World Zionist Organization was close to this. More information can be found here...but the fact remains....the borders of Israel have not been set...and they keep expanding.

 

greater israel



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Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

762.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 03:42 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Too many people to deal with soo little time {#emotions_dlg.angel}

 

............er...um....maybe equipment?



Thread: a question you´d like to ask other tc-ists

763.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 03:31 am

Why has thehandsome posted over a dozen posts regarding supposed maltreatment of Kurds in Turkey...and nothing about the Mavi Marmara?

 

.............just wondering? Did I miss something?



Thread: The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish

764.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 03:17 am

 

Quoting vineyards

 

 

This is pure demagogy...

May I ask you depict the culture and life in the region? I must have missed all the good points. Please explain the reasons of inequality between the two sexes; the reason behind multiple marriages, and why women have to marry the brother of his deceased husband. Please justfy feuds, inequal distribution of inheritance between brothers and sisters. There are many more but these would serve a good starter.

 

Interesting....the type of marriage you mention is called Levirate Marriage... and is practiced in many parts of the world.  It is strictly forbitten in Islam.



Thread: The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish

765.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 10:22 pm

Here is what you said.....: "As a foreigner I have met and spoke to many Turkish and I would unfortunately have to agree,that racist remarks exist.  I have heard on numerous occasions " Oh yes the kurds are (*&^%^&&^ all negative comments ) but we are living in harmony we don´t have a problem with kurds. I have also heard half-breed  referrals for everyone who is not 100% Turk"

 

The impression you gave, by omission, is that this negative comments and more are common in Turkey.

Quoting Paramedic

 

 

errrrr uhmmmmmm I never said I have not spoke to Turks that do not mention this because I have and I have but I was saying that you can not be blind this does exist. I was debating the suggestion that metehan2001 had made that it does not exist. I do agree that this is subject all to personal opinion. I am not saying anything wrong about the Turkish people they have brought to this world many good thing and also have a wonderful rich history. I was merely stating I have heard this personally and I can find this on websites to substaniate a problem. That was all. All in all my introduction to turkish culture and  hospitality has been wonderful but in every country including my own there are issues that exist. Back to you ..... and where is my coffee and cookies I would love some Turkish desserts too please

 

No coffee and cookies from me....and no Turkish desserts either. I am not a Turk and do not posess that hospitality. If you are nice I may reconsider, but I don´t give unwarranted rewards.



Thread: The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish

766.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 09:36 pm

 

Quoting Paramedic

 

As a foreigner I have met and spoke to many Turkish and I would unfortunately have to agree,that racist remarks exist.  I have heard on numerous occasions " Oh yes the kurds are (*&^%^&&^ all negative comments ) but we are living in harmony we don´t have a problem with kurds. I have also heard half-breed  referrals for everyone who is not 100% Turk

I am not going say anything about the politic because I can find that everywhere on internet. I  think originally this forum was started for us foreigners to understand the cultural differences - like food or holiday festival activities.

But you do realize your experiences are subjective?  They are your experiences.  How many Turks do you know, how long have you known them, from what sectors of societies are they?

 

I have been in contact with various sectors from Turkish society for years. In that time I have heard no anti Kurdish statements. In fact, I didn´t even realize some of the people I knew were Kurds, Laz, Çerkiz and so on until recently.  Everyone presented themselves as Turkish citizens. The unfortunate birth of the PKK changed things.

 

I´ve spent time in Turkey at social events were different ethnicities were together and I saw no social tension. It really appears to me this is an external fabrication. The old divide and conquer strategy.

 

I have heard no half breed comments. The very idea is absurd. There are very few ethnicly pure "Turkic" people in Turkey. Even then, what "Turks" are you talking about? You do realize there are many different Turkic groups, don´t you?

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Thread: Suggestions about TurkishClass

767.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 09:07 pm

 

Quoting gezegen

Now that we have now a new feature ´like´, I think there should be ´dislike´ as well! Because it is equally important to know who your fans as well as who your enemies are! Hehe!

 

I agree....what is the point of the "like" button? FWIW, it seems silly to me.



Thread: The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish

768.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 08:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

do you want a formal welcome to the forum message? (I am the head of welcoming comittee here ) 

 

Self appointed ..." (I am the head of welcoming comittee here )  " ... I may add. {#emotions_dlg.noway}



Thread: Some maps of Israel and Palestine

769.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 08:20 pm

Here is a more current map....so sad...

 

2010 map of Palestine



Thread: Israel

770.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Jun 2010 Sun 04:01 am

 

Quoting oeince

"... It is easy to widen simples about peaceful Jews. However currently, most effectful Jews are obsessed and militant. Whom I mean in my comments is this group ..."

 

 

..........well that very much depends on just what one thinks is effective.  I can think of many Jews who are effective and not violent. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, Naomi Klein who wrote the Shock Doctrine and other powerful books and articles, then of course, Noam Chomsky, Charlie Chaplin, John Stewart of the Daily Show...and I could go on and on....the contribution to culture and society by Jews has been tremendous.  I would not confuse Jews with what is going on in Israel.  In many ways I feel the Jews are being used as pawns themselves. It´s unfortunate too many are falling into the trap. There is an active peace block, but they have been overpowered...for now. Uri Avnery´s Gush ShalomB´Tselem.........and I could go on and on....

 

BTW why are your posts posted in such tiny font? You could write in a word processor, then bring it into notepad and past it into your message. That way the font would be standard for this forum. It´s hard to read your posts, and your posts are very long and difficult to read. If you want your message to get through, it has to be easy to read.  Something I´m working on myself....



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