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Thread: ALLIED NAVY IN GALLIPOLIThi

811.       alameda
3499 posts
 20 Mar 2010 Sat 10:27 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Alameda and Alpha are talking about different songs...or perhaps the same music with radically different lyrics.

 

The one mentioned by Alpha has little to do with sheep raisers. It is performed by groups like Clancy Brothers (Liam Clancy) or Dubliners; both are accessible via youtube.

 

Well it should be obvious to some....that there have been different variations of the song during it´s evolution. My post did have a reference to the Clancy Brothers version.

 

 

There are multiple variations, the version you wrote about is actually:

 

"And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is a song, written by Scottish-born singer-songwriter Eric Bogle in 1971.    The song describes war as futile and gruesome, while criticising those who seek to glorify it. This is exemplified in the song by the account of a young Australian soldier who is maimed at the Battle of Gallipoli in World War I.

The song incorporates the melody and a few lines of lyrics of "Waltzing Matilda" at its conclusion. Many cover versions of the song have been performed and recorded.

The song is often praised for its imagery of the devastation at Gallipoli. The protagonist, a rover before the war, loses his legs in the battle, and later notes the passing of other veterans with time, as younger generations become apathetic to the veterans and their cause.

In May 2001 the Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA), as part of its 75th Anniversary celebrations, named "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" as one of the Top 30 Australian songs of all time."

 

.....as noted by Henry.....



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Thread: ALLIED NAVY IN GALLIPOLIThi

812.       alameda
3499 posts
 20 Mar 2010 Sat 03:16 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

If you are interested in the subject, read Keith Murdoch´s (Rupert Murdoch´s father) GALLIPOLI LETTER adressed to the Aussie Priminister in 1915.

 

You can easily find it in google. You may not be too happy, if you are a Brit !

 

I also suggest you search for and listen to the bush ballad called "Waltzing Matilda" by CLANCY BROTHERS if you want to get a feeling of the real thing.

 

 

 

 

 

An explanation or translation of the song....

 

"The title is Australian slang for travelling by foot with one´s goods in a "Matilda" (bag) slung over one´s back."

 

....IOW not a lady named Matilda

 

Clancy Brothers version

 

War is horrible!

 

All quiet on the Western Front   <----- this is the whole 1930s movie...said to be a realistic depiction of WWI



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Thread: What do foreigners expect from Turks?

813.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Mar 2010 Wed 09:16 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

I agree with you, even if I admire thair hospitality; my daughter stayed for 2 weeks in istanbul, at a turkish family - it was an intercultural change of pupils - and she came back with 3 kg plus{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}..and with a 3rd bag of presents....{#emotions_dlg.ty_ty}

 

Are you saying she gained more than 3kg? in only 2 weeks? That is amazing.......I love Turkish people, but the only thing that bothers me is the pressure to eat and eat and eat.....I just can´t do it. Last time I was there I was sick for over a month from the eating. I´m sure they have no idea this can cause problems. 



Thread: What do foreigners expect from Turks?

814.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Mar 2010 Wed 05:06 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

not feeding me at every occassion with words"you must try this!!!!!!"in imperative mood

 

Oh, I so agree with you+++++ I have felt obligated to eat and eat and eat........and gotten sick...The hospitality is fabulous...but when I try to politely decline, please accept. Maybe there is a way to be taken serious when declining food? If so, please let us know.



Thread: useful phrases

815.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Mar 2010 Wed 02:18 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

If you are talking to the departed persons relatives, you would say "Başınız sağolsun".

 

You can use these referring to the departed person:

 

Allah rahmet eylesin = May god have mercy on his/her soul.

Mekanı cennet olsun = May he reside in heaven.

Nur içinde yatsın = May he rest in the holy light.

 

(Note: Alameda "Allah razı olsun" isn´t used for departed people. It was my translation for that whole English sentence where you first thanked another person then expressed condolences. It roughly means "May god bless you (a way to express gratitude for some favor/good deed that you have done)")

 

What I was asking about was:

 

Someone has performed a good deed, and that deed was related to a person for whom you want to express something like May Allah have mercy on his/her soul.

 

So....there are two things in this...one for the person doing the deed, and another for the departed person.

In this case a person made a memorial for a departed person we know. I was trying to thank them for the good deed of making the memorial, and...express RIP regarding the departed person.

 

The Allah razı olsun was for doing the good deed.

 

Sometimes I have heard Turks say:

 

Allah kabulitsin  <---< doing by the sounds to me, so I´m sure the spelling isn´t correct.

 

In Arabic it would be tekqab´Allah....

 

As I understand this it means may your good deeds be accepted. One would say this to someone who has fasted or made prayers



Thread: useful phrases

816.       alameda
3499 posts
 17 Mar 2010 Wed 12:53 am

It would be great if there were a sticky post of useful phrases for things like what to say when someone has passed away. Things like:

 

Mekanı cennet olsun

Allah senden razı olsun

Allah senden razı olsun, nur içinde yatsın

 

Anyone want to do this? There are times when these are very useful and needed.



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Thread: Gokhan Kirdar - Yerine Sevemem

817.       alameda
3499 posts
 13 Mar 2010 Sat 11:58 am

Ahhh....beautiful, thank you very much....I love this song and the way he does it.

Yerine Sevemem

 

 

Quoting aiça

 

 

My try for the first part:

 

Far from you

Everything always is incomplete

There is no strength in my heart

Believe me for one breath

There is no consolence

Nor any bit of hope

What did you do to me

Why this silence

Inside me things are hurting

Since you came to my mind

 

 



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Thread: What do Turkish people expect from foreigners?

818.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Mar 2010 Fri 11:04 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

Well this thread certainly has taken a turn.....ewww.....{#emotions_dlg.puking}...gentlemen........puuuleeze..........



Thread: What do Turkish people expect from foreigners?

819.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Mar 2010 Thu 08:24 pm

 

Quoting lemon

i still cant see if she is ugly or not. {#emotions_dlg.think}

 

 

 

Well, you certainly can see a lot, and surmise a lot out of what you see.....good leg musculature ....should be able to walk, run stand....can stand and walk in strange foot devices....indicates she is versatile



Thread: What do Turkish people expect from foreigners?

820.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Mar 2010 Thu 06:43 pm

{#emotions_dlg.get_you}

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 not so sure

{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

 

 

 



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