"There is No Happy Love" is one of my favorite French poems, and French poetry is one of my favorite national poetries. I hope you won´t mind if I add different translations of the same poem, to both Turkish and English.

(I suppose that you used Turkish translation  made by Gertrude Durusoy and Ahmet Necdet, so I´m adding Cemal Süreya´s. Unfortunately, I couldn´t find out who is translator of English version, but you can find it all around Internet)

Mutlu Aşk Yoktur Ki Dünyada

Aslında hiçbir şey kâr değil insana
Ne gücü ne zayıf yanları ne de yüreği
Gölgesi bir haç gölgesidir kollarını açsa
Ve kırar göğsüne bastırırken sevdiği şeyi
Tuhaf bir ayrılıktır hayatı kapkara
Mutlu aşk yok ki dünyada

Hani giydirilmiş erler bir başka yazgıya
İşte o silahsız erlere benzer hayatı
Sabahları o yazgı için uyanmış olsalar da
Tükenmiştirler ve kararsızdırlar akşamları
Söyle yavrum şu sözleri sakın ağlama
Mutlu aşk yok ki dünyada

Güzel aşkım tatlı aşkım çıbanım derdim
Yaralı bir kuş gibi taşırım seni şuramda
Ve görmeden bakanlar şu halimize bizim
Süzdüğüm sözleri söylerler benden sonra
Ve her şey der demez ölür iri gözlerin uğruna
Mutlu aşk yok ki dünyada

Yaşamayı öğrenmek bizimçin geçti çoktan
Ağlasın gece içinde kalplerimiz yan yana
En küçük şarkıyı mutsuzluktur kurtaran
Her ürperiş borçlu baştan bir hayıflanmaya
Ve her kitar havası beslenir bir hıçkırıkla
Mutlu aşk yok ki dünyada

Acılara batmamış bir aşk söyle bana
Yıkmamış kıymamış olsun bir aşk söyle
Bir aşk söyle sarartıp soldurmamış ama
İnan ki senden artık değil yurt sevgisi de
Bir aşk yok ki paydos demiş göz yaşlarına
Mutlu aşk yok ki dünyada
Ama şu aşk ikimizin öyle de olsa.

LOUIS ARAGON

Çeviren: Cemal Süreya


THERE IS NO HAPPY LOVE

Man never truly possesses anything
Not his strength, not his weakness, not his heart
When he opens his arms
His shadow forms a cross
When he tries to embrace happiness
He crushes it
His life is a strange and painful divorce

There is no happy love

His life resembles those soulless soldiers
Who have been groomed for a different fate
Why should they rise in the morning
When nighttime finds them disarmed, uncertain
Say these words and hold back your tears

There is no happy love

My beautiful love, my dear love, my torn heart
I carry you in me like a wounded bird
Those who unknowingly watch us walk by
Repeat after me my words and sigh
They have already died in your bright eyes

There is no happy love

By the time we learn to live
It´s already too late
Our hearts cry in unison at night
It takes many regrets to pay for a thrill
Many a misfortune for the simplest song
Many a tear for a guitar´s melody

There is no happy love

There is no love which is not pain
There is no love which does not die
There is no love which does not fade
And none that is greater than your love for your country
There is no love which does not live from tears

There is no happy love
But it is our own love

LOUIS ARAGON

Ouch! Then it seems I was a member of this site much longer than I thought!

Time flies indeed... I feel like it was yesterday when I joined this website. From the other hand, I also feel like I am its member all my life...

I didn´t learn Turkish well, what was my primary aim, but I´ve learnt a lot about Turkey and its culture,  which made me love this country more and more. I met here lots of people with the same passion to learn more about Turkey and lots of people ready to help us learning. Many of them became my  real friends, and some of them I even met in real. And this is something precious for me...

Many things have happened during these five years. But, no matter of all ups and downs, the truth is: Turkish Class has changed my life, to better, and today I can only say a big THANK YOU to everyone who made this place so dear to me!

Yeah, seems that sometimes people are the bigger beasts than animals

No, unfortunatelly, the monster is not caught yet, but we all hope that in the end he will get the punishment he deserves.

In the meanwhile, the council of doctors (including the biggest experts from German and Swiss specialized clinics) decided to not expose Mila to surgery, but to make her external/removable prostheses, which will provide her better  maintenance of hygiene and more normal life. After training her for normal life, the next step is to find a family who will adopt her. There are many candidates and special committee will make the criteria to be met by those who want to adopt Mila.

The similar thing has happened in my country a couple of months ago, but the victim was a dog, Mila, the one-year-old mixed breed, discovered with all four of her legs cut off by (still) unknown perpetrator. The dog was brought to the Belgrade Veterinary Institution in a very serious condition since it was determined that beside the injuries to her legs she had also survived a heart attack and developed pneumonia.

The only solution for Mila was to be fitted with prosthetic limbs, which are not manufactured anywhere in Serbia. Help was offered by many foreign clinics and it is even considered to perform the surgery in Serbia which would spare Mila the additional stress of the trip. Anyway, after The Belgrade Veterinary Institution announced that the dog’s condition had improved and that she was ready to start preparations for a surgery to fit her with prostheses, Deputy Secretary for Belgrade Utilities and Housing Services Vladimir Terzin has stated that Mila the dog will not be exposed to operations if the issue of her disability can be solved with orthopedic aids.The final decision about who, where and if Mila will undergo surgery will be made by an expert committee. In case of surgery, Mila will be the first dog in the world with prothesis at all four legs.

Read more:

Mutilated dog ready for surgery 

Video of Mila making first steps with orthopedic paws

Mila´s case caused numerous discussions about treatment of animals and persecuttion of animal abuse under Serbia´s law. Only Face Book group "Punishment for the monster who cut the dog all four legs" has more than 270.000 members in this moment. B92, Serbian television, radio and internet media outlet, after Mila´s case has decided to set up a fund to protect animals.

Thank you for this info It must be her "eccentric style" that you didn´t like

Is this the reason for posting this translation among General/Off-topics?

Strange, what I´ve read is that many of Yeni Türkü´s lyrics "are based on poems of critically acclaimed contemporary Turkish poets". This song must be an exception.

Thanks anyway

I’m just enjoying it, thank you both one more time for your assistance I really like all the songs, seems that after Yedi Karanfıl and Ayna I´ve got one more favorite Turkish group Their singer Derya Köroğlu has such an amazing, romantic voice! Anyway, if have to select songs that I liked mostly, it would be (besides İstersen Hiç Başlamasın) Destina, then go Olmasa Mektubun, Yağmurun Elleri, Başka Türlü Bir Şey, Bahar Şarkısı of ballads, then Aşk yeniden, Telli Telli, Vira… of their faster songs. Very difficult decision, since, as I said, i loved them all…

Edited (6/27/2010) by slavica

Thank you very much, si++ and oeince

The list of all their songs is impressive and your suggestions of particular songs are really helpful. Also, downloading their "The Best of" and "Live" albums sounds as an excellent idea!

Thank you one more time

Edited (6/26/2010) by slavica

This is a beautiful song indeed

Can enyone recommend me more similar songs of this group?