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The Crescent and the Star - Stephen Kinzer
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1.       Deli_kizin
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 26 May 2007 Sat 09:33 pm

The Crescent and the Star by Stephen Kinzer. Has anybody bought this book and what do you think of it? I remember it had very good reviews in Dutch papers last year (it was reprinted I believe), and I would like tohear your opinions.

As İm not having too much money to spend, I want to make 'sure' for as far as I can be, that Im buying a usefull book that will enlarge (or actually start to form) my knowledge about Turkish history but also about nowadays modern Turkey that is trying to become a more 'western' country without losing its eastern beauties.


Any answer is welcome, Please share your ideas with me otherwise İ will by some nice poetry from Nazım Hikmet

2.       Elisa
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 26 May 2007 Sat 09:42 pm

Check this thread.
I was asking about a couple of books a while ago, haven't read the one you mentioned yet though.

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 26 May 2007 Sat 09:49 pm

Thanks Elisa, that sure was helpful and you also brought my interest to the books mentioned about Atatürk!

Ive always loved the ancient greek history but that is where my passion for history stopped. Now I am reading Birds without Wings, I realised that I read the parts about history with much pleasure and not that much difficulty (in highschool i always had to read everything twice that was about war) anymore so I really should find a good book! History will be important if İ get to study Türk dili ve Edebiyatı.

4.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 May 2007 Mon 12:02 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

The Crescent and the Star by Stephen Kinzer. Has anybody bought this book and what do you think of it? I remember it had very good reviews in Dutch papers last year (it was reprinted I believe), and I would like tohear your opinions.

As İm not having too much money to spend, I want to make 'sure' for as far as I can be, that Im buying a usefull book that will enlarge (or actually start to form) my knowledge about Turkish history but also about nowadays modern Turkey that is trying to become a more 'western' country without losing its eastern beauties.


Any answer is welcome, Please share your ideas with me otherwise İ will by some nice poetry from Nazım Hikmet



I looked Stephen Kinzer up and he seems to have pretty good recommendations. He also wrote "All the Shah's Men"

FYI it's on Amazon for $4.94 used.

5.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2007 Mon 12:08 pm

Yes, I wondered that too. Can somebody tell me about ordering from Amazon? Ive never done that before. What are the shipping costs usually for 1 or 2 books? And the shipping time? Is is trustworthy? Has anybody from Turkey ordered from Amazon.com ? Are payments done by visa?

Thanks in advance

6.       fcs
253 posts
 28 May 2007 Mon 12:19 pm

Generally, ordering and shipping from Amazon is pretty simple and safe. There are some shipping rates which are changable for the locations. Shipping time is about one week for Turkey but you can make it fast by selecting fast shipping -of course more expensive -.

Btw, if your order is broken when you recieved it, they change it with the new one or return your money.

They accept all major credit cards, as well as amex, diners etc.

For more info please check the amazon site, help section.

7.       panta rei
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 28 May 2007 Mon 12:36 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Can somebody tell me about ordering from Amazon?



Let me tell you:

First you get an account by submitting your e-mail address, then follow the instructions, falan filan...

Quoting Deli_kizin:


What are the shipping costs usually for 1 or 2 books?



It depends on the method of shipping. There are three types of shipping method: normal, expedited and... (I forgot the name of the third one. I think you'd better forget about it. After all you would never prefer it like I did. )

But as far as I know Amazon charges shipping cost for each item, no matter what they might be. This means that if you order two items, you are charged two times for shipping cost.

Quoting Deli_kizin:


And the shipping time?



The normal shipping to Turkey, usually takes 4-6 weeks, depending on the availability of the item you order, of course. And the expedited method, 2-3 weeks.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Is is trustworthy?



Of course, it is! It is aware very well that if it wants to charge you second time, it must be trustworthy!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Has anybody from Turkey ordered from Amazon.com ?



Now the answer to this question is obvious, I think.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Are payments done by visa?



Even I myself, as an ordinary citizen, accept Visa payment, let alone Amazon.com.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Thanks in advance



Don't mention it! Anyone from Turkey who ordered from Amazon.com before, would do the same


The only frustrating thing with ordering from amazon.com is that the shipping cost sometimes exceeds the price of the item you consider to order. E.g. The price be only $6, and the shipping cost would be about $12. Hehehe! There are many cheap books that I want to order from amazon, but principely I can't accept to pay much more for the shipping than for the book price itself.

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2007 Mon 12:40 pm

Hehe thank you Panta Rei. Well if it takes over a month I might as well spend my time looking around some more bookshops in İzmir, they might as well have it!

I also dont have that much money to spend (and a second hand book, there are people who read their books on the toilet only so no thanks) and I dont know my summer plans yet so..in that case I might as well buy in Holland too

9.       panta rei
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 28 May 2007 Mon 12:46 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Hehe thank you Panta Rei. Well if it takes over a month I might as well spend my time looking around some more bookshops in İzmir, they might as well have it!

I also dont have that much money to spend (and a second hand book, there are people who read their books on the toilet only so no thanks) and I dont know my summer plans yet so..in that case I might as well buy in Holland too



Did I prepare and post my such a perfectly and wonderfully written reply just for this? For the simple conclusion that you "might as well buy in Holland too"? Did I put all my effort for just this, huh? So, is that easy that much-"you don't know your summer plans yet"?

I blame you, deli kızın! lol

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 May 2007 Mon 12:47 pm

Quoting panta rei:


I blame you, deli kızın! lol



Bana ne bana ne bana ne

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