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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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30.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 03:59 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:


They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.


what the ... is that? are you out of your mind?
the secular state soldiers are sahids? dont speak rubbish!

why you don't try to think a bit positive femme??why you against to moral values ????


Dont bother MrX,
She is just making fun,and take the thread to a debat not suitable time for it.
When people,friends,or people you love ,are in bad stiuation,you stick by their side,no time to criticize nor debat.
And btw,secular or not,they are not a system,they are people,they are STİLL Muslims,and STİLL Şahid in Heaven inşallah .


muslims killing other muslims are still sahids? oh, now i understand the message of mohammet.

btw, why the whole islamic world is soaked with terror and wars? take any muslim country and tell if they live in peace, with others and with each other.
why do you bother yourself with me and dont bother with the terror your religion spreads?
allah must be a super being enjoying muslims murdering each other and others.

31.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:03 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:


They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.


what the ... is that? are you out of your mind?
the secular state soldiers are sahids? dont speak rubbish!

why you don't try to think a bit positive femme??why you against to moral values ????


Dont bother MrX,
She is just making fun,and take the thread to a debat not suitable time for it.
When people,friends,or people you love ,are in bad stiuation,you stick by their side,no time to criticize nor debat.
And btw,secular or not,they are not a system,they are people,they are STİLL Muslims,and STİLL Şahid in Heaven inşallah .


muslims killing other muslims are still sahids? oh, now i understand the message of mohammet.

btw, why the whole islamic world is soaked with terror and wars? take any muslim country and tell if they live in peace, with others and with each other.
why do you bother yourself with me and dont bother with the terror your religion spreads?
allah must be a super being enjoying muslims murdering each other and others.

thats never a matter of any belief or any religion,thats the problem of humanity,may be ur right ur on some opinions about İslam world,but really time to unite for trues and to be against to wrongs even whatever ur belief...we each one has a big responsbibilty to all humanity and to all young generations for bring them a more peacfull and understanding world...

32.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:06 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:


They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.


what the ... is that? are you out of your mind?
the secular state soldiers are sahids? dont speak rubbish!

why you don't try to think a bit positive femme??why you against to moral values ????


Dont bother MrX,
She is just making fun,and take the thread to a debat not suitable time for it.
When people,friends,or people you love ,are in bad stiuation,you stick by their side,no time to criticize nor debat.
And btw,secular or not,they are not a system,they are people,they are STİLL Muslims,and STİLL Şahid in Heaven inşallah .


muslims killing other muslims are still sahids? oh, now i understand the message of mohammet.

btw, why the whole islamic world is soaked with terror and wars? take any muslim country and tell if they live in peace, with others and with each other.
why do you bother yourself with me and dont bother with the terror your religion spreads?
allah must be a super being enjoying muslims murdering each other and others.


You mean İraq ?
Afganistan ?
Sudan ?
Yes really,i wonder why ?!

Look,as i said before i've finished debating with you long time ago,and even if we are debating NOW is not the time for that,its not suitable .
At least not for me.

33.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:22 pm

Quoting CANLI:

They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.



Maybe its not always clear to those who have a deep faith, but this kind of thing is VERY offensive to non-muslims. You have your religion and faiths, we have ours.

Who is deserving of being in "heaven" depends on God/Allah - not some man-made section of religious faith.

(I know you would not cause offence deliberately Canli, but I had to express my view)

34.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:29 pm

Quoting MrX67:

we love our Kurdish brothers and sisters more then ever,but never terrorists and i believe that most of Kurdish people which in living in Turkey against this terrorism to,so Turkey passing from a very rough road at the days,so time to be more unite and time to say ''THİS COUNTRY ALL OF US''.Theres not a war in Turkey,just a determinism against to terrorists and all who supporting this damn divisinevess!!!!



I am very glad to hear your views MrX67. I wish that ALL Turks (including extreme nationalists) held your views too

35.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:38 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting MrX67:

we love our Kurdish brothers and sisters more then ever,but never terrorists and i believe that most of Kurdish people which in living in Turkey against this terrorism to,so Turkey passing from a very rough road at the days,so time to be more unite and time to say ''THİS COUNTRY ALL OF US''.Theres not a war in Turkey,just a determinism against to terrorists and all who supporting this damn divisinevess!!!!



I am very glad to hear your views MrX67. I wish that ALL Turks (including extreme nationalists) held your views too

ethnic or cultural racism raising on all over world Aenigma,thats the biggest danger for all world so we all have to unite this danger...

36.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:40 pm

Quote:

ethnic or cultural racism raising on all over world Aenigma,thats the biggest danger for all world



Sad but true

37.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:46 pm

I am a Turk and I have no objection to PKK having their own independent country, including a piece from Republic of Turkey.

All they have to do is to match the price Turkia paid for the same land, in history. Countries do not come free of charge.

Of the luckier Kurds who enjoy Turkish passports, the smarter ones have the intelligence to look around and compare status of Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi and Irani Kurds...They know they are comperatively way better off in Turkey, and that their life in SE ANATOLIA is possible only under Turkish sovereignity.

If Turkia, one day, loses SE ANATOLIA, it will not be to Kurds. There are much smarter and stronger other suitors after the same land. Kurds do not have chance.they are just moribund puppets.

They also have a dept to pay to Arabs yet. As soon as USA pulls out of Iraq. Arabs will remember Kurds sold them out USA.

In near history, Turkia had sheltered Iraqi Kurds against Saddam's tyranny. This time, Kurds will find the Turkish borders closed....


PS: Does anyone want to know what happened to some of the Kurds that Turkia saved from Saddam and fed/sheltered for montha?

38.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:49 pm

Racism is alive and kicking in Turkey after all

39.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 04:56 pm

Turks, Kurds and all other ethnic groups of Turkia JOINTLY will get PKK, god help those who are on terrorists' side ...That is not racism.

40.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:08 pm

This IS racism.

Quoting AlphaF:

I am a Turk and I have no objection to PKK having their own independent country, including a piece from Republic of Turkey.



You are calling all Kurdish as PKK.

Quoting AlphaF:

Of the luckier Kurds who enjoy Turkish passports, the smarter ones have the intelligence to look around and compare status of Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi and Irani Kurds...They know they are comperatively way better off in Turkey, and that their life in SE ANATOLIA is possible only under Turkish sovereignity.



Patronising in the EXTREME.

Quoting AlphaF:


There are much smarter and stronger other suitors after the same land. Kurds do not have chance.they are just moribund puppets..



This is not racist? This is disgusting...

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