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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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120.       Serdar07
428 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 08:51 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

who wants more blood please say " yes" don't be hypocrate! There are people believing in sheding blood everywhere in different names of religion, nation , faked stories and interests! But the better to honest to yourself and not have 2 faces . Here saying something and feeling in your heart another thing.


you are like a cold bucket of water, now.


You are damn right because I can not play with 2 faces , telling words about love on one hand and then have all the hate to the other different religions and nations on the other hand! Governments can do what they like, Generals and Armies can do as well. But the people on this earth should have their own words , we get bored from your crazy fightings and mad interests... let's in peace for a while!

121.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:00 pm

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

who wants more blood please say " yes" don't be hypocrate! There are people believing in sheding blood everywhere in different names of religion, nation , faked stories and interests! But the better to honest to yourself and not have 2 faces . Here saying something and feeling in your heart another thing.


you are like a cold bucket of water, now.


You are damn right because I can not play with 2 faces , telling words about love on one hand and then have all the hate to the other different religions and nations on the other hand! Governments can do what they like, Generals and Armies can do as well. But the people on this earth should have their own words , we get bored from your crazy fightings and mad interests... let's in peace for a while!


i simply agree

122.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:06 pm

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

who wants more blood please say " yes" don't be hypocrate! There are people believing in sheding blood everywhere in different names of religion, nation , faked stories and interests! But the better to honest to yourself and not have 2 faces . Here saying something and feeling in your heart another thing.


you are like a cold bucket of water, now.


You are damn right because I can not play with 2 faces , telling words about love on one hand and then have all the hate to the other different religions and nations on the other hand! Governments can do what they like, Generals and Armies can do as well. But the people on this earth should have their own words , we get bored from your crazy fightings and mad interests... let's in peace for a while!



+100000000000

123.       Serdar07
428 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:16 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

who wants more blood please say " yes" don't be hypocrate! There are people believing in sheding blood everywhere in different names of religion, nation , faked stories and interests! But the better to honest to yourself and not have 2 faces . Here saying something and feeling in your heart another thing.


you are like a cold bucket of water, now.


You are damn right because I can not play with 2 faces , telling words about love on one hand and then have all the hate to the other different religions and nations on the other hand! Governments can do what they like, Generals and Armies can do as well. But the people on this earth should have their own words , we get bored from your crazy fightings and mad interests... let's in peace for a while!



+100000000000


there is a saying in Arabic Languge: (( let him or her to drink from the sea))
that meaning let those following the lies be blind and follow what their dark heart ordering them... there are nations on this earth.. Kurds is one of them beside the others! If someone so happy with destroying Kurds let him or her to continue the dream but the time of awakking will realized that Turkish, Kurdish , Farsi and Arab in this region are still alive.

124.       Dilara
1153 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:19 pm

This subject REALLY interests me! but for a chilean person like me, It is very complicated to understand because of many factors like geographical reasons , lack of clear information - The TV news in Latin America mostly support the USA Point of View on foreign affairs!- ... I did some research and was reading about Kurdish people's history, background, what they are asking for , something about PKK however, I think only informed people can give their opinion on sush a sensitive topic !!!!!! I dont feel I have enough knowledge to give my opinion, however, I know a very nice kurdish guy and he is trying to explain the "Kurdish version" of this conflict and...I feel so sorry for kurdish INNOCENT people, they say most kurds are very peaceful people and just want to live peacefully together as brothers but also told me about the hard times when kurdish language was banned , when he could not study in his mother tongue and many other things, the story of his people REALLY AFFECTED ME , you cant imagine...!!! they want to be independent from Turkey, they want to have their land and govern themselves, I think this is never going to happen and I just hope no more innocent people suffer because of this... I just try to understand BOTH sides...hard task!!!

I perceive, however, that most turkish people respect kurds , some consider them as "brothers" as I pointed out but of course, there must be many who consider kurds nothing but a problem ...I wonder, do most kurds consider themselves as "Kurdish" or "Kurdish but part of Turkish nation" ...do their aspirations have ANY chance to come into reality in the future? do their aspirations have ANY VALIDITY??
Dilara.

125.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:25 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip1:


I can't wait for our soldiers to return home and get the hell out of Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. Leave the fighting in the name of Allah & land for these countries to battle.


İ cant wait for that too tea.

İ asked why the US or UK doesn't intervene? because they are already there,lets not fool ourselves
US and UK rules İraq !
That government is phony,a nice and good puppet in US and UK hands .



So you believe since the US & UK are in Iraq, WE have a responsibility to Turkey. Why in the world would we want to discrupt Northern Iraq.

One need only to go to a place like Irbil, up north in Kurdistan, to see (what's) possible - an Iraqi city that is vibrant, has high employment and a flourishing economy. It's almost like walking down the streets of a typical European city, with restaurants and shops and car dealerships. It's a thriving place, and I believe that is a demonstration of what is possible hopefully for the rest of Iraq.

Because of some deaths, you think our military is going to help Turkey in destroying what we helped rebuild.. That is just crazey!




Of course the US has responsibility in Northern Iraq. It may have appeared calm, but the PKK and Kurdish separatist groups has been using it as a staging ground to plan attacks on Turkey.

On numerous occasions, Turkey has asked the government of Iraq, and the US to stop the attacks. Nothing but talk has transpired to date. The attacks have continued, and Turkish troops have been murdered, tourists and other civilians murdered and kidnapped. What do you expect Turkey to do? What do you think the US gov would do? Turkey has been very patient to date, but everything has limits.

Another thing to remember is the fact that Northern Iraq was protected by the No Fly zone for more than 10 years. Note the No Fly Zone was not a UN sanctioned zone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones

126.       elham
579 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 11:43 pm

We deplore the killing of Turkish soldiers at border, and support the Turkish government to take all possible means to the peaceful solution before the start of this war,this is evidence of love and pride to its people and not to push them in war might be lost because PKK take the rugged mountains maybe difficult to eliminate them

127.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 11:51 pm

Quoting Dilara:

This subject REALLY interests me! but for a chilean person like me, It is very complicated to understand because of many factors like geographical reasons , lack of clear information - The TV news in Latin America mostly support the USA Point of View on foreign affairs!- ... I did some research and was reading about Kurdish people's history, background, what they are asking for , something about PKK however, I think only informed people can give their opinion on sush a sensitive topic !!!!!! I dont feel I have enough knowledge to give my opinion, however, I know a very nice kurdish guy and he is trying to explain the "Kurdish version" of this conflict and...I feel so sorry for kurdish INNOCENT people, they say most kurds are very peaceful people and just want to live peacefully together as brothers but also told me about the hard times when kurdish language was banned , when he could not study in his mother tongue and many other things, the story of his people REALLY AFFECTED ME , you cant imagine...!!! they want to be independent from Turkey, they want to have their land and govern themselves, I think this is never going to happen and I just hope no more innocent people suffer because of this... I just try to understand BOTH sides...hard task!!!

I perceive, however, that most turkish people respect kurds , some consider them as "brothers" as I pointed out but of course, there must be many who consider kurds nothing but a problem ...I wonder, do most kurds consider themselves as "Kurdish" or "Kurdish but part of Turkish nation" ...do their aspirations have ANY chance to come into reality in the future? do their aspirations have ANY VALIDITY??
Dilara.

128.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 11:53 pm

Media says in brief=
"Some countries are supporting and organising this illegal and guilty terrorist group, unfortunately, everybody knows these countries, ".

129.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 11:55 pm

Quoting yilgun-7:

Media says in brief=
"Some countries are supporting and organising this illegal and guilty terrorist group, unfortunately, everybody knows these countries, ".



I understand that there are countries who support some of the plight of the Kurdish people, but this DOES NOT mean they support terrorism. These people are extremists.

Please be careful with your accusations Yilgun.

130.       kaddersokak
130 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 11:59 pm

Quoting ciko:

I cannot believe that only 2 persons have posted about such an important issue. Apperantly dear foreign members of Turkishclass are only interested in their Turkish boys or the exotic things in Turkey and turkish members are only interested in hunting girls here. What a pity!!



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