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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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80.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:29 pm

Quoting Müjde:

If you know like this,of course its our problem that we showed this religion like that.
Buttt,Islam was sent by Allah who gives food,health,life to everbody around the world so how can we limit it just for muslims?I think you shouldnt take the bad example of believers.While talking about religions,people shouldnt talk according to people they know because people may show differences.
Rules and the philosophy are all written,if you read Quran just for onece,you can understand what I mean.



I have read the Quran, but yes, of course I can only judge a religion IN PRACTICE by the people I know who follow that religion

How else can a religion be judged, other than by its believers?

81.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:32 pm

Quoting janissary:


AEnigma, as it s seen u start this debate. I agree with Canlı %100. they are Martyres and every turkish ppl believe that our soldiars are in the best degree now. that s why they are holy for us. please stop this arguement...


this is a crap
what if they were atheists?

so wheres that all beautiful words written in TC about how wonderful turks are havin multicultural system?
or i may not know, maybe non-muslims dont serve in army? or only 1% other elements left out to convert to the religion of peace?

what canli writes about 99% people in turkia are muslims is crappy as her political viewpoints, unless it proves out how tolerant and peaceful is islam that converted all the "pre-turkia period" nations with the help of justfull swords of islam.

"janissary", you must be proud of kidnapped children that were brainwashed to kill their families for the glory of ottomans and allah?

82.       teaschip
3870 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:33 pm

It's here all over the news. I hope Rice can convince both sides to call a truce. I would prefer to have Turkey remain an Alley. However, seeing the news I see protestors in Turkey rioting against the U.S. I hope a resolution can come out of this.

The Turkish government promises talks before any attack. However, they currently have moved thousands of their military to the border. This does not look good, my friends.

83.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:38 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Müjde:

If you know like this,of course its our problem that we showed this religion like that.
Buttt,Islam was sent by Allah who gives food,health,life to everbody around the world so how can we limit it just for muslims?I think you shouldnt take the bad example of believers.While talking about religions,people shouldnt talk according to people they know because people may show differences.
Rules and the philosophy are all written,if you read Quran just for onece,you can understand what I mean.



I have read the Quran, but yes, of course I can only judge a religion IN PRACTICE by the people I know who follow that religion

How else can a religion be judged, other than by its believers?


just wait, they will pop out with crusades or usa-iraq

84.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:39 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip1:



So you believe since the US & UK are in Iraq, WE have a responsibility to Turkey. Why in the world would we want to discrupt Northern Iraq.

One need only to go to a place like Irbil, up north in Kurdistan, to see (what's) possible - an Iraqi city that is vibrant, has high employment and a flourishing economy. It's almost like walking down the streets of a typical European city, with restaurants and shops and car dealerships. It's a thriving place, and I believe that is a demonstration of what is possible hopefully for the rest of Iraq.

Because of some deaths, you think our military is going to help Turkey in destroying what we helped rebuild.. That is just crazey!



So if Northern America attacked Canada,the US army wont interfear because you dont want to disturbe Northern America ?!

That is absurd !

İt İS İraq responsibility like it or not !
And your military is NOT going to help Turkey,it should take responsibility of what it's done, in destroying a country...İRAQ !



You may want to revisit your geography book. The US is part of Norther America. So would we interfere if Greenland attacked Candada? Not to worry, I don't think Greenland will be attacking Canada any time soon.

I'm not saying the U.S., shoould do absolutely nothing. However, I don't believe Turkey should cross the borders into Iraq...


Or maybe my language book,
Sorry,as you may know,English is not my first language,its my second !
Let me put it that way then,North of The United States Of America.
İs that better ?
İf the North of USA attacked Canada,you wouldnt interfear too ,so you dont desterurb the North of USA peace?!

85.       Müjde
posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:39 pm

Which people you know , people practice Islam by their identity cards or people know Islam and think about it very much , have to love everything in the Universe?

We believe that in the other World, muslims will be asked why we were believers in the world.Just for being for our ancestors' religion or finding Allah by looking, searching and travelling the world.
So,only Allah knows but every muslim is not a real muslim.

86.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:39 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Müjde:

If you know like this,of course its our problem that we showed this religion like that.
Buttt,Islam was sent by Allah who gives food,health,life to everbody around the world so how can we limit it just for muslims?I think you shouldnt take the bad example of believers.While talking about religions,people shouldnt talk according to people they know because people may show differences.
Rules and the philosophy are all written,if you read Quran just for onece,you can understand what I mean.



I have read the Quran, but yes, of course I can only judge a religion IN PRACTICE by the people I know who follow that religion

How else can a religion be judged, other than by its believers?


just wait, they will pop out with crusades or usa-iraq



10, 9, 8. 7.....

87.       teaschip
3870 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:39 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Müjde:

If you know like this,of course its our problem that we showed this religion like that.
Buttt,Islam was sent by Allah who gives food,health,life to everbody around the world so how can we limit it just for muslims?I think you shouldnt take the bad example of believers.While talking about religions,people shouldnt talk according to people they know because people may show differences.
Rules and the philosophy are all written,if you read Quran just for onece,you can understand what I mean.



I have read the Quran, but yes, of course I can only judge a religion IN PRACTICE by the people I know who follow that religion

How else can a religion be judged, other than by its believers?



True, unfortunatley there are alot of hypocrites and misguided individuals in almost every religion...Then you have the extremists. Those are the ones I have great concern with.

88.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:43 pm

Quoting Müjde:

Which people you know , people practice Islam by their identity cards or people know Islam and think about it very much , have to love everything in the Universe?

We believe that in the other World, muslims will be asked why we were believers in the world.Just for being for our ancestors' religion or finding Allah by looking, searching and travelling the world.
So,only Allah knows but every muslim is not a real muslim.



Do you think I learned about Islam from some Turkish waiter boyfriend?

Anyway, your posts again confirmed that only muslims go to heaven! I have lived a good life - never stolen, cheated, killed, or hurt anyone - I have given money to the poor, helped people in need... and yet..it seems, by the sheer fate of my birthplace and culture, I am doomed to hell?

God bless all the poor fated agnostics!

89.       teaschip
3870 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:48 pm

This also would include Johavas Witnessess. They only belive 300,000 are going to heaven. I think were all shit of luck.

90.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 07:48 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip1:



So you believe since the US & UK are in Iraq, WE have a responsibility to Turkey. Why in the world would we want to discrupt Northern Iraq.

One need only to go to a place like Irbil, up north in Kurdistan, to see (what's) possible - an Iraqi city that is vibrant, has high employment and a flourishing economy. It's almost like walking down the streets of a typical European city, with restaurants and shops and car dealerships. It's a thriving place, and I believe that is a demonstration of what is possible hopefully for the rest of Iraq.

Because of some deaths, you think our military is going to help Turkey in destroying what we helped rebuild.. That is just crazey!



So if Northern America attacked Canada,the US army wont interfear because you dont want to disturbe Northern America ?!

That is absurd !

İt İS İraq responsibility like it or not !
And your military is NOT going to help Turkey,it should take responsibility of what it's done, in destroying a country...İRAQ !



You may want to revisit your geography book. The US is part of Norther America. So would we interfere if Greenland attacked Candada? Not to worry, I don't think Greenland will be attacking Canada any time soon.

I'm not saying the U.S., shoould do absolutely nothing. However, I don't believe Turkey should cross the borders into Iraq...


Or maybe my language book,
Sorry,as you may know,English is not my first language,its my second !
Let me put it that way then,North of The United States Of America.
İs that better ?
İf the North of USA attacked Canada,you wouldnt interfear too ,so you dont desterurb the North of USA peace?!


hey, now dont run into your bad english
i dont think the northern part of usa will attack canada without the southern part of usa lol lol lol
you are comedy canli.
i would be ashamed to discuss with such logics like yours

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