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100.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 05:44 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting excalibur89:

thehandsome

You say if the the russians invaded it would be "your problem", you are missing the point. The U.S. doesnt want it to be your problem.We dont mind taking on the responsibility to see that countries do not get overtaken by conquering governments. We have not invaded and taken control of lands. We have not and will not do what the ottoman empire,persian empire,roman empire and the british empire's have done in past history. Your obvious dislike for the U.S. is blurring your judgement. Ataturk embraced the west and so should you.


Come on! This is ridiculous! What would you say/do if I went to your house, changed everything around so that things are done the right way and established a "base" there to keep an eye on you so that you do things the way I think is right for you! You can't possibly think that the US is the mother Theresa of the world and wants to protect everybody from evil. If the US was so sensitive to people's suffering, they wouldn't allow millions of people to be without homes or healthcare in their own country - for a start. First of all, mind your own business as you would want others to mind theirs! Second of all, open your eyes and cut this naive story.

The US was fighting the Soviets because they didn't want Soviets to take over the world, they wanted themselves to be the dominant power. It is obvious that communism is evil and a total failure, but that wouldn't stop them from invading other countries as military is the one thing that communism does have. So it's surely a great thing that the US stopped the spread of communism. However, don't tell me that they did it for the love of Korea or Turkey. lol On top of that, some of the tactics they used, like radicalizing muslims are backfiring now and are somewhat shady!
Apart from fighting Soviets, the US does things around the world in order to gain access to resources, that is really a no-brainer. Every other nation under the sun wants to do the exact same thing. We have good examples from the past what happened when the Turks had power, or the British, or (god curse) the Germans. What did they do? Invade other countries to exploit their resources!!!!!!! What I find most hypocritical in the criticism of the US is that those same Turkish people are proud of Ottomans and exploit whoever is weaker whenever they can! Same with Europe - the Brits supported their government's colonialism when they used to be a superpower, but they hate the US for doing what they had supported when it was them...



If you really believe your statements above catwoman, you could say that about anything. Why have order or polices, let's throw moral and ethics out the door. Who is anyone to tell us how to live and keep our households. Why protest against men who are abusive to their wifes.. It's not our business. Tell me when it's right to interfere or not with other countries? When they need aid, trade but not diplomacy...Maybe when it has an impact on us...well of course that is pretty logical.

I just wonder if it wasn't for President Reagan, just how the Germans would be living now a days. The U.S. has done many positive things and I believe they out way the negative. When having to make difficult decisions at any level also comes the consequences of public outcry and disagreement. It's no popularity contest with the U.S. and yet we suffer and accept the consequences that come with it.

One thing I do agree with you is the hypocrisy of other countries who have invaded other countries for their personal gain, but have selective memory of their past.

Mother Theresa has a nice tune...

101.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 05:46 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Roswitha:

Alameda is right, expand your mind, read The Guardian, The Independent, and liberal newspaper Ha'retz often very critical of Isreal, DER SPIEGEL, Washington Post, Frankfurter Allgemeine, DIE ZEIT, DIE WELT, forget the Wall Stree Journal (very biased when it comes to Muslim topics)



Some of these newspapers are very very liberal. I would not concider reading anything generated by news media as expanding your mind.



I agree Elisabeth, very liberal...

102.       excalibur89
13 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 07:50 am

Thehandsome uses a jewish poet for his defence! (alan ginsberg). that is beautiful.Will you be wearing a "I support alan ginsberg" shirt while you are protesting for a free palestine? you will definitely make the front page of the newspaper, haha

103.       excalibur89
13 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 08:23 am

should i mention that he was gay? you are really scraping the bottom of the barrell.

104.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 09:11 am

Quoting teaschip1:



I agree Elisabeth, very liberal...



Liberal= open minded, generous, progressive, tolerant
Antonym = closed minded, stingy, narrow minded, intolerant

105.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 09:51 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Some of these newspapers are very very liberal. I would not concider reading anything generated by news media as expanding your mind.



Ummm Elizabeth....do you seriously think these news sources are "very very" liberal? The British Broadcasting Corporation, Der Spiegel, Haaretz, International Herald Tribune, Asia Times, Christian Science Monitor....?

I try to get information from a broad spectrum of sources and include publications such as Al Jazeerea, Al Ahram, Todays Zaman, Hurriyet and Gulf News and the Jerusalem Post

It does get tedious reading all these...and I don't read them all everyday, but I try to read them all at least once a week.

I don't read them to "expand" my mind per say, but rather to get an idea of what is happening in the world, and gauge different perspectives.

106.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 12:51 pm

Quoting excalibur89:

Thehandsome uses a jewish poet for his defence! (alan ginsberg). that is beautiful.Will you be wearing a "I support alan ginsberg" shirt while you are protesting for a free palestine? you will definitely make the front page of the newspaper, haha


haha
It was not for a defence! It was a "GIFT" for you.
Did not like it?
I can send you Rambo movies if you like.
lol

107.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 12:52 pm

Quoting excalibur89:

should i mention that he was gay? you are really scraping the bottom of the barrell.


I did not know he was gay.
It DOES matter for you, I guess!

108.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 01:13 pm

Quoting teaschip1:


If you really believe your statements above catwoman, you could say that about anything. Why have order or polices, let's throw moral and ethics out the door. Who is anyone to tell us how to live and keep our households. Why protest against men who are abusive to their wifes.. It's not our business. Tell me when it's right to interfere or not with other countries? When they need aid, trade but not diplomacy...Maybe when it has an impact on us...well of course that is pretty logical.

I just wonder if it wasn't for President Reagan, just how the Germans would be living now a days. The U.S. has done many positive things and I believe they out way the negative. When having to make difficult decisions at any level also comes the consequences of public outcry and disagreement. It's no popularity contest with the U.S. and yet we suffer and accept the consequences that come with it.

One thing I do agree with you is the hypocrisy of other countries who have invaded other countries for their personal gain, but have selective memory of their past.

Mother Theresa has a nice tune...



It is amazing!!
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE!!!
Dont you see that?!!!!
Whenever and whereever you go with your army, your country is commiting WAR CRIMES and crimes against humanity.
And you are telling us 'THIS is making difficul decisions and consquences'. Phew!!!

109.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 02:29 pm

The Ottoman Empire never committed war crimes and your beloved country is all about human rights too.

I love it when Turkey would like us to interfer with Northern Iraq and the PKK, they love no problems. It's called CONVENIENCE, handsome. Why does your government insist that the U.S. share real time intelligence with you, if they are so against help from the U.S.

We have every RIGHT to make descisions on behalf of our country, if it has an impact on us. That would be just as shallow to say TURKEY has no right to go after the PKK.

110.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2007 Sat 02:34 pm

Quoting excalibur89:

Thehandsome uses a jewish poet for his defence! (alan ginsberg). that is beautiful.Will you be wearing a "I support alan ginsberg" shirt while you are protesting for a free palestine? you will definitely make the front page of the newspaper, haha



Yes, him and Alpha will be at the front line.

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