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19 Dec 2007 Wed 09:17 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Correct....Terrorists are same in principle.
You cant have "bad" terrorists bombing your cities and "good"terrorists bombing cities of others... |
A bit of a contradiction with what you said earlier!  
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 10:42 pm |
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good terrorists? :S
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:26 am |
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Yes, PKK is a terrorist organization. But why do Kurdish kids choose to be a rebel on the mountains and to die? And why thousands of people supported DTP, a political party affiliated with PKK? That means there is something wrong in that part of Turkey that makes Kurdish kids terrorists and that is why people support that political party. It is not simple security problem. Turkey should solve the problems through social and economic reforms. Only then, the attacks against rebels will be legitimate.
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:39 am |
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Pardon, how is DTP affiliated with PKK? :-S
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:40 am |
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Quoting zbrct: Yes, PKK is a terrorist organization. But why do Kurdish kids choose to be a rebel on the mountains and to die?
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dont pretend as if you dont know!
they are brainwashed by their parents/community. just like palestinian kids are sent against israeli tanks.
every nation/country brainwashes the citizens, some less and some extremely effective, telling them about patriotism.
Quoting zbrct: Turkey should solve the problems through social and economic reforms. Only then, the attacks against rebels will be legitimate. |
i think so too,
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free media and free (without brainwashing) education!
the nation must be freed from backward mentality.
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:42 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting AlphaF: Correct....Terrorists are same in principle.
You cant have "bad" terrorists bombing your cities and "good"terrorists bombing cities of others... |
A bit of a contradiction with what you said earlier! |
I see Alpha is still trying to defend some very basic false thought and actions...
a question to you Alpha!
are the palestinians terrorists? (yes for israelIsrael)
Are Cechnians terrorists? (yes for russia Russia)
Are Kosovan muslims terrorists? (yes for serbians)
Is Al Qaida terrorist? (yes for usa and wester state ideologies)
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:47 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting zbrct: Yes, PKK is a terrorist organization. But why do Kurdish kids choose to be a rebel on the mountains and to die?
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dont pretend as if you dont know!
they are brainwashed by their parents/community. just like palestinian kids are sent against israeli tanks.
every nation/country brainwashes the citizens, some less and some extremely effective, telling them about patriotism.
Quoting zbrct: Turkey should solve the problems through social and economic reforms. Only then, the attacks against rebels will be legitimate. |
i think so too,
plus
free media and free (without brainwashing) education!
the nation must be freed from backward mentality. |
The Kurdish Question can never be solved through economic measures. Kurds dont ask for better salaries (at least not a priority for the ones who support PKK or DTP). and fascist social reforms would never work!
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:48 am |
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Quoting kedycan: Quoting catwoman: Quoting AlphaF: Correct....Terrorists are same in principle.
You cant have "bad" terrorists bombing your cities and "good"terrorists bombing cities of others... |
A bit of a contradiction with what you said earlier! |
I see Alpha is still trying to defend some very basic false thought and actions...
a question to you Alpha!
are the palestinians terrorists? (yes for israelIsrael)
Are Cechnians terrorists? (yes for russia Russia)
Are Kosovan muslims terrorists? (yes for serbians)
Is Al Qaida terrorist? (yes for usa and wester state ideologies)
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al qaeda is not a terrorist group according to only western ideologies.
it is a terrorist org in the whole world except for islamic states.
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:50 am |
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They rebel because they still, as we are approaching 2008, feel deprived of rights. The reason why a few of them chose to do it violently is probably (and sadly) that they constantly see that political attempts are a no win.
DTP is the how-manieth kurdish party they want to close now?
We surely need reforms that ensures democracy for everyone in Turkey and better education so that no one will want to (or feel the need to) join PKK in the future.
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:52 am |
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Quote:
al qaeda is not a terrorist group according to only western ideologies.
it is a terrorist org in the whole world except for islamic states. |
ah yes true sorry. not except for the islamic states. cos u know some muslim states under hegemony of bush or blair also decalred them terrorists.
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20 Dec 2007 Thu 12:56 am |
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Quoting kedycan: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting zbrct: Yes, PKK is a terrorist organization. But why do Kurdish kids choose to be a rebel on the mountains and to die?
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dont pretend as if you dont know!
they are brainwashed by their parents/community. just like palestinian kids are sent against israeli tanks.
every nation/country brainwashes the citizens, some less and some extremely effective, telling them about patriotism.
Quoting zbrct: Turkey should solve the problems through social and economic reforms. Only then, the attacks against rebels will be legitimate. |
i think so too,
plus
free media and free (without brainwashing) education!
the nation must be freed from backward mentality. |
The Kurdish Question can never be solved through economic measures. Kurds dont ask for better salaries (at least not a priority for the ones who support PKK or DTP). and fascist social reforms would never work! |
boosting the economy of ireland has solved the problem.
a fascist social? a strange blend of ideologies 
but i agree with you to some extent, some problems are not solved easily, it takes a number of generations and number of victims.
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