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100.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Feb 2008 Mon 01:49 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

...........btw, there was no nation called palestinians before, nor there was such country. it were jews who used to call their land palestine as their home to go back one day.

and actually almost no one lived in the deserted area of ipalestine, so to claim the land was someones.
as far as im concerned if not jews then arab would fight someone else or with each other. middle eastern states never were in peace with each other.



Actually the name Palestine was not used by the Jews. They called the area Israel and Judea, or Eretz Israel.

The name Palestine was given the area as a slap in the fact to the Jews by the Emperor Hadrian to blot out the names the Jews had given the area. I read he asked who were the most hated people to the Jews. He was told the the Philistine (who had become extinct by that time) That name morphed into what we now know as Palestine.

The name Palestine came from the Philistines who invaded the area and were not Semites at all. It's sad the area ever got that name as it was given in hate. Before that it was called the Land of Canaan.

That area is one of the most continually inhabited areas in the world for many thousands of years. In fact the remains of Neanderthals have been found in the Kebara Cave.

What are called Palestinians today are the indiginous people of the area who have been there many years. DNA analysis shows they are related to the Jews. Of course, being as the area has been invaded many times, there is DNA evidance of just about everyone there.....after all it is in the Fertile Crescent....aka the cradle of civilization.


101.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Feb 2008 Mon 08:00 pm

CHRISTIAN AID CONDEMNS ISRAEL'S BLOCKADE OF GAZA

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/fromthefield/218275/120110166252.htm

102.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:35 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

i wanna answer the question.
britan had a right to grant the land to anyone it wished to or keep to itself.
if you occuppy the land, its yours and you do what you like.


By what law ?
Britan has no rights on that land so it can give it to anyone she likes
İf so,why didnt it give them part of Britain itself,she actually own that land
But you see,no one gives something REALLY belong to him.
So,you mean USA and Britain have the right now to give İraq to whome ever they wish ?!
That wasnt your opinion about İraq as i recall!


Quoting femme_fatal:


and actually almost no one lived in the deserted area of palestine, so to claim the land was someones.



So anyone can go to Nevada desert and claim the land there and make his own country over it?!lol
Thats really funny

Quoting femme_fatal:


as far as im concerned if not jews then arab would fight someone else or with each other. middle eastern states never were in peace with each other.


Actually Middle East have lots of goodies,so for long,long time we didnt have that pleasure so anyone can state such comment.

103.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:33 pm

Quoting alameda:


Actually the name Palestine was not used by the Jews. They called the area Israel and Judea, or Eretz Israel.


well, i didnt mean the ancient times, alameda. i was talking about late centuries. jews used to call their homeland palestine before israel was established.

Quoting alameda:



The name Palestine was given the area as a slap in the fact to the Jews by the Emperor Hadrian to blot out the names the Jews had given the area. I read he asked who were the most hated people to the Jews. He was told the the Philistine (who had become extinct by that time) That name morphed into what we now know as Palestine.


wow, im impressed by your educational skills.
you have to also underline that philistinians were the life time enemies of israel. they were called the people of sea from north, obviously from greece or from mesopotamia area.

Quoting alameda:



The name Palestine came from the Philistines who invaded the area and were not Semites at all. It's sad the area ever got that name as it was given in hate. Before that it was called the Land of Canaan.


as above

Quoting alameda:



That area is one of the most continually inhabited areas in the world for many thousands of years.


the actual land of palestine was deserted for last couple of centuries as a result of endless invasions, barely a few thousands lived there.

Quoting alameda:


In fact the remains of Neanderthals have been found in the Kebara Cave.


very interesting

Quoting alameda:



What are called Palestinians today are the indiginous people of the area who have been there many years.


well, simply after it was taken by arabs.

Quoting alameda:


DNA analysis shows they are related to the Jews. Of course, being as the area has been invaded many times, there is DNA evidance of just about everyone there

and ????

Quoting alameda:


.....after all it is in the Fertile Crescent....aka the cradle of civilization.



alameda, this is now blah blah blah!

ps. how come this time you forgot to give your links?

104.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:48 pm

Quoting CANLI:


By what law ?


by what law egypt belongs to arabs? by what law persia belongs to muslims? by what law byzantium belongs to turks? so and on.

Quoting CANLI:


Britan has no rights on that land so it can give it to anyone she likes


canli, thats what you do when you occupy the country. it has been so for all the centuries.

Quoting CANLI:


İf so,why didnt it give them part of Britain itself,she actually own that land


well, great britain was actually an empire, if you know it. they also have occupied your country but granted it back to you. how britain was merciful in comparison to other empires!!!
if not british occupation you wouldnt be able today use internet (invented by evil western jews).

Quoting CANLI:


But you see,no one gives something REALLY belong to him.
So,you mean USA and Britain have the right now to give İraq to whome ever they wish ?!
That wasnt your opinion about İraq as i recall!


what i know is USA and UK are not invading, they will leave iraq, they are not establishing the 51st state in iraq.

Quoting CANLI:


So anyone can go to Nevada desert and claim the land there and make his own country over it?!lol
Thats really funny


if you can and invade the nevada (i see you prefer deserts only ) why not?

Quoting CANLI:


Actually Middle East have lots of goodies,so for long,long time we didnt have that pleasure so anyone can state such comment.


thats why the majority of middle east live in poverty?

105.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:18 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:



Who said Egypt belong to arabs?
Egypt belong to US,EGYPTİANS!

You are not EVEN making any sense ,so actually i wont bother to reply.
You know nothing about what happened back days,or what is happening,but as usual you are taking the side against Muslims,or Arabs,or Easters
İ guess habits dont die by time,how about if its a way of life ?!
You even contradicting yourself in your other posts,and now defending what you said in a naive way
So USA and UK told you about their actual plans,thats they wont stay in iraq,thats why they dont have a right there,but if they were planing to take it,so...
İ guess it would be ok in your opinion,because they occupied it ...!

İf you or anyone see any logic in what you say,please point it out!

Simply no one should take what it doesnt belong to him,
STEAL is a sin..didnt you know that ?!

And as i said,you just argue without knowledge,if you occupy some country for years and years,taking advantage of its resources,then later leaving it..or sometimes not 'as in İraq'
that would leave it in a rich state ?!

106.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:25 pm

Quoting CANLI:

And as i said,you just argue without knowledge,if you occupy some country for years and years,taking advantage of its resources,then later leaving it..or sometimes not 'as in İraq'
that would leave it in a rich state ?!



There are figures on this somewhere and I will have to check them. But... if you compare what the US has spent in the war, it would take them DECADES to make any profit from their resources.

107.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:45 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

And as i said,you just argue without knowledge,if you occupy some country for years and years,taking advantage of its resources,then later leaving it..or sometimes not 'as in İraq'
that would leave it in a rich state ?!



There are figures on this somewhere and I will have to check them. But... if you compare what the US has spent in the war, it would take them DECADES to make any profit from their resources.


yes, chack them.

what i heard is it would take USA 200 years to regain the means spent on iraq, if we talk about iraq oil lol

108.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:00 pm

Quoting CANLI:


Who said Egypt belong to arabs?
Egypt belong to US,EGYPTİANS!


canli, pls, dont expose your foolishness and your high education.

there are no copts in egypt anymore, copts were wiped away from the face of egypt, whats left is a little powerless minority/communities. egypt was christian country before it was invaded by wild arabs. are you giving egypt back to copts before you eliminate them all to the end?
what language do you speak in egypt? whats the official language?

Quoting CANLI:


You are not EVEN making any sense ,so actually i wont bother to reply.
You know nothing about what happened back days,or what is happening,but as usual you are taking the side against Muslims,or Arabs,or Easters
İ guess habits dont die by time,how about if its a way of life ?!
You even contradicting yourself in your other posts,and now defending what you said in a naive way
So USA and UK told you about their actual plans,thats they wont stay in iraq,thats why they dont have a right there,but if they were planing to take it,so...
İ guess it would be ok in your opinion,because they occupied it ...!

İf you or anyone see any logic in what you say,please point it out!


this doesnt make sense. you are difficult to read.

Quoting CANLI:



Simply no one should take what it doesnt belong to him,
STEAL is a sin..didnt you know that ?!



well, arabs have a lot to return, give all the lands and goods back to the world.
not mentioning mohammed was the one who loved robbing caravans
he s the great example for being a great invader.

Quoting CANLI:


And as i said,you just argue without knowledge,if you occupy some country for years and years,taking advantage of its resources,then later leaving it..or sometimes not 'as in İraq'
that would leave it in a rich state ?!


if i had your knowledge i wouldnt debate

watch this
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPJVnxbpqo

109.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 05:02 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

And as i said,you just argue without knowledge,if you occupy some country for years and years,taking advantage of its resources,then later leaving it..or sometimes not 'as in İraq'
that would leave it in a rich state ?!



There are figures on this somewhere and I will have to check them. But... if you compare what the US has spent in the war, it would take them DECADES to make any profit from their resources.


You mean USA will stay there for DECADES to gain the profits?!
Dont tell me USA and UK has invaded İraq for charity reasons !

110.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 05:10 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting CANLI:


Who said Egypt belong to arabs?
Egypt belong to US,EGYPTİANS!


canli, pls, dont expose your foolishness and your high education.



There is something called RESPECT if you dont know about it
And i dont accept that language from you,and will report it to admin
İf its not JUST in Forum rules to debat with RESPECT with each others,but also i guess that is what they've taught us while we were kids.

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