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How (not) to do it - Harams/helals
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:18 pm |
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Quoting azade: Lately it's been pointed out that some of the forum rules are not being followed and it seems that nobody really cares to actually follow them anyway, so why not just delete them alltogether? They are a joke. |
another crying baby!
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:19 pm |
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Quoting elham: you are so wrong canim,
anyway I don't want to waste my time with you  |
Oki doki 
Then please dont complain that people have the WRONG view about Islam
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:24 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: alright.
my question is: why do ONLY muslims get offended throughout the whole world (not only on this site)?
people harshly criticise every religion. jews along with their religion were not only criticised but persecuted till now and it goes on. but have you ever heard any situation when a jew slits a throat of any non-jewish for this?
there are not only cartoons but very offensive comdeies about christianity, but havent heard of any riots against the jokes.
so what is wrong with you muslims? are you all humorless zombies? 
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This is very very true. Jews, in fact, make wonderful jokes about themselves!! It is common to hear that muslims are unable to laugh at themselves, and I thought it was just another stereotypical remark, but this site, unfortunately, seems to prove it to be true.
Whether screaming at us in their BLOCK CAPITALS ABOUT HOW DISRESPECTFUL WE ARE, or SHOUTING THEIR NATIONALISTIC SLOGANS (usually accompanied with a few choice swear words and insults, while at the same time never failing to praise Allah) they show us only the side that we see in the media - banner holding, screaming, violent, fundementalist, angry and full of hatred.
Thanks for the clarification |
you are right that we make such a horrible image of islam before all world since we misunderstood it at the beginning and we are not universal as it is.
i think this problem is mostly historical and what we brought from our past. you know western cultures had got rid of their most precious thing, religion then they experienced renaissance and reform so for new generations its easy to make fun of it and everything related to it. yet eastern cultures are really different in same subject. the east rose with religion, it was in dark age before it and as long as they maintain the religion they improved their living standards. so they cannot stand any insulting attack towards it, i mean the idea of religion doesnt mean same thing to a western and eastern.
yet it may not be an excuse. if we muslims had understood and represent Quran truly or be universal as it is we wouldnt be discussing in that matter now. cause the human being that Quran aims to embody is the most tolerant, merciful, fair one.
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:27 pm |
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Quoting japrak: you are right that we make such a horrible image of islam before all world since we misunderstood it at the beginning and we are not universal as it is.
i think this problem is mostly historical and what we brought from our past. you know western cultures had got rid of their most precious thing, religion then they experienced renaissance and reform so for new generations its easy to make fun of it and everything related to it. yet eastern cultures are really different in same subject. the east rose with religion, it was in dark age before it and as long as they maintain the religion they improved their living standards. so they cannot stand any insulting attack towards it, i mean the idea of religion doesnt mean same thing to a western and eastern.
yet it may not be an excuse. if we muslims had understood and represent Quran truly or be universal as it is we wouldnt be discussing in that matter now. cause the human being that Quran aims to embody is the most tolerant, merciful, fair one. |
I really liked your reply. It was great to read something which was not rabidly defensive (even if I don't agree with all of it )
Thanks 
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:28 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting azade: Lately it's been pointed out that some of the forum rules are not being followed and it seems that nobody really cares to actually follow them anyway, so why not just delete them alltogether? They are a joke. |
another crying baby! |
What's your context? 
I'm simply stating that some particular rules have no function so we should get rid of them in order to discuss topics such as politics and religion freely
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:40 pm |
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i observe things
what i see is when aenigma and elisabeth criticise each other's cultures, countries, and education none of them get offended or complain or cry or use bad words in their defence.
read the subjects why i love uk or why i love us.
when lis is criticised for her religion her reaction is very diverse to the ones of our dear and "peaceful" muslims. why? and then when they (muslims) are out of arguments they suddenly question the website rules, but they completly feel OK when their religion and culture is promoted.
are you then hypocrites or immature big babies who dont know what the discussions are and are completly unable to stand the criticism?
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:50 pm |
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femme I think you misunderstood what I said, which has nothing to do with the original topic of this thread or religion for that matter. I just noticed that yet again someone pointed out that the rules of TLC are not being followed, so what I am saying is that those forum rules, number 10 being the most obvious, are completely superfluous and should simply be deleted.
See, I'm supporting free discussions, not opposing them. We should be able to discuss any topic we'd like because censorship does no good whatsoever.
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17 Feb 2008 Sun 08:51 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
Actually this is not strictly true. I did cry once when you called me "Fat ass evil brit" 
I AM NOT EVIL!  |
stand up aenigma, be a man!
you have to face criticism, you are not special (as special as the easterners)!
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