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How (not) to do it - Harams/helals
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60.       incişka
746 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 05:58 pm

Quoting libralady:

I have the picture, the book open at page 3 (mostly 1 and 2 are introduction and preface lol ) young newly wed couple, checking the rules,

'uhmm can we do this? hang on, I can take your clothes off, but it must be dark. Where are the buttons',

'hang on I cant see the book now..........'

'turn to the next page, just a minute, I can't see, I must put the light on!'

'Don't put the light on I don't have any clothes on ................'

'Which page is spontaneity on?'



I know u just wanted to have some fun, it is OK. But this kind of picture is impossible, u know. If they really care about islamic rules on sex, they would already know all the rules b4 marriage. And if they do not care, they would not read the book at the first night of their marriage but do whatever they want

As i said b4, i know ur intention was not to hurt anyone, but, please, when u use religious topics to have fun, just be careful. because some ppl who take the religion seriously may be hurt, and they are already. as we see...

61.       japrak
19 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:02 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Sorry Japrak, but you can't have it both ways on this website. If people here want to quote parts of the Quran, lecture us on having respect for headscarfs, advise us which translations of the Quran to read, throw in references like "allah willing" into posts, give us endless lectures about ramadan, post information about bayram holidays, etc. etc. ....then you have have no right to complain when people discuss other aspects of your religion.

I am happy to stop talking about your religion...just as soon as YOU ALL DO



i think im trying to say similar things. i think islam or any religion is only the issue of interest. so there is no need to make that long explanations or trying to inform people. yet a person still wants to introduce his religion i say, the best topic to start is belief in God, nothing else. why he tries to give meat to a baby i say. that was all i tried to say but it goes in different ways. anyway it may be better to stop here for the others sake

62.       incişka
746 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:11 pm

From "Forum Rules"

10. Any discussion on politics or religion and religious matters is strictly prohibited.


Postings about your religious beliefs; explaining any subject from a religious perspective; trying to influence others with your religious beliefs; getting religion involved in any subject and/or any subjects with religion as the main theme is prohibited. This is a religion - free website where all members should feel comfortable whether they are religious, atheist, agnostic or whatever.

The only exception to this is where someone has raised a question about Turkish culture which cannot be answered without making a reference to religion, for example an explanation about a turkish religious holiday. Anyone answering a question of this nature, must be careful to keep their answer impartial, impersonal and non controversial. Any such responses will be deleted.

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Why are the rules not applied? Or if they wont be applied, why r they listed as rules?

63.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:12 pm

Quoting incişka:

As i said b4, i know ur intention was not to hurt anyone, but, please, when u use religious topics to have fun, just be careful. because some ppl who take the religion seriously may be hurt, and they are already. as we see...



If you have strong belief, nothing anyone says here should be able to hurt you. However (even though your post was to Libralady) I take your point and hope religious people will have the same respect for the fact that I dont have any religion and dont want it shoved down my throat

64.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:18 pm

Quoting incişka:


Why are the rules not applied? Or if they wont be applied, why r they listed as rules?



I think that banning discussions about politics or religion is virtually impossible on this website. There is a fine line between Turkish culture and religion for a start. There used to be a time when religion was a private thing, but unfortunately it is always in the news (for mostly wrong reaons) and therefore becomes a very interesting topic to debate.

If you are religious, why should any debate worry you. Surely your faith is strong enough to cope with hearing criticism?

65.       elham
579 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:22 pm

Quoting japrak:


i think im trying to say similar things. i think islam or any religion is only the issue of interest. so there is no need to make that long explanations or trying to inform people. yet a person still wants to introduce his religion i say, the best topic to start is belief in God, nothing else. why he tries to give meat to a baby i say. that was all i tried to say but it goes in different ways. anyway it may be better to stop here for the others sake


dear Japarak, because you are new member ,I want you to know there's Bermuda Triangle in this forum(AEngima,Femme and catwoman)those trying to change topic from serious to humor , so be careful from them especially in religious matters, so be clever to deal with them

66.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:24 pm

Quoting elham:


dear Japarak, because you are new member ,I want you to know there's Bermuda Triangle in this forum(AEngima,Femme and catwoman)those trying to change topic from serious to humor , so be careful from them especially in religious matters, so be clever to deal with them


OMG, this is hilarious lol

67.       incişka
746 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:25 pm

Have i said anything about my faith? and i dont care what ppl say or debate over at all. im just asking ppl to try to see the things from the other side's perspective. About the rules, they r created to be followed in practice. If those rules thati posted will stay only on the sentence-level, they should be deleted from the list.

68.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:27 pm

Quoting incişka:

Have i said anything about my faith? and i dont care what ppl say or debate over at all. im just asking ppl to try to see the things from the other side's perspective. About the rules, they r created to be followed in practice. If those rules thati posted will stay only on the sentence-level, they should be deleted from the list.



I didn't say anything about you having faith. My "you" was not a personal "you".

I was giving my view about why it is impossible and fruitless to delete every single post where religion is debated.

69.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:29 pm

Quoting elham:

dear Japarak, because you are new member ,I want you to know there's Bermuda Triangle in this forum(AEngima,Femme and catwoman)those trying to change topic from serious to humor , so be careful from them especially in religious matters, so be clever to deal with them



Thanks Elham
The only humourous post I see in answer to Japarak is yours canim

70.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 06:31 pm

Quoting incişka:

Have i said anything about my faith?


no

Quoting incişka:


and i dont care what ppl say or debate over at all.


then you shouldnt have said anything at all.

Quoting incişka:


im just asking ppl to try to see the things from the other side's perspective.


the other side perspective is known to me

Quoting incişka:


About the rules, they r created to be followed in practice.


these rules are stupid.

Quoting incişka:


If those rules thati posted will stay only on the sentence-level, they should be deleted from the list.


imagine a life without politics and religions
how on earth you are gonna avoid the discussions about them? these things are parts of our lives even if you want or not.

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