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People shouldn't be bought and sold - Stop the Traffik
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1.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 11:06 am

Several weeks ago there was a discussion on here about the history /origins of slavery. I remember making the point that it was still going on today and cited the harvesting of beans for the chocolate industry as an example (child slavery).

I have just received a news letter from Stop the Traffik and they need more signatures to their petition against people traffiking, which is to be presented to the UN in a few weeks time.

Please take the time to visit their site and read about the plight of people around the world. If you agree that something needs to be done, perhaps you could start by signing their petition online.

Thanks

http://www.stopthetraffik.org/help/declaration.aspx

2.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 11:10 am

I agree something needs to be done, and will happily sign the petition, but do wonder what groups like this actually can achieve other than "highlighting awareness" as this practice is illegal anyway

Maybe I am defeatist this morning

3.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 11:36 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

I agree something needs to be done, and will happily sign the petition, but do wonder what groups like this actually can achieve other than "highlighting awareness" as this practice is illegal anyway

Maybe I am defeatist this morning



Plant an acorn and an oak tree will grow.
Without awareness, nothing will be done. Action has to start somewhere.

I guess it's pretty much like TC world. Members often highlight injustices and this helps people become more aware of what is going on in the world. They themselves may become more involved/endeavour to learn more.

For instance, once somebody is aware of the child slavery involved in producing most of the chocolate, they can choose to buy only Fairtrade chocolate. In an ideal world, if more people become aware and make this decision then the chocolate industry may become very aware that their profits are at risk if they don't take the ethical route.

I am also reminded of a view that is often mentioned on this site. Silence about an issue may be viewed as unsupportive or indifference.

Thank you for taking the time to give your support.

4.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 11:49 am

Hmmm ok, maybe I am just a bit sceptical of sites that run petitions and ask for all your details (including phone number) and then want to use your details to send you their newsletter

5.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:10 pm

The telephone number field is optional. One has the option to receive/not receive email. There is even an option to unsubscribe to email at any time in the future. They send out very little anyway.

Not a problem.

I guess we can query just about anything in this world if we have a mind to. If in doubt, don't sign.

6.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:12 pm

Quoting peace train:

For instance, once somebody is aware of the child slavery involved in producing most of the chocolate, they can choose to buy only Fairtrade chocolate. In an ideal world, if more people become aware and make this decision then the chocolate industry may become very aware that their profits are at risk if they don't take the ethical route.



So I should stop buying drugs and fake DVDs from this trafficing organisations?

I always used to buy Co-Op Fairtrade Chocolate - but then I had to stop...I started getting fat lol

7.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:21 pm

Where can I buy fairtrade drugs for Portokal?

8.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:35 pm

This thread is about people trafficking. I've made the intention for the thread clear and I don't have anything further to add.

9.       AEnigma III
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 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:39 pm

The people-traffic industry is supported almost entirely by drugs and prostitution. Or did you not know it?

10.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:51 pm

Hey I have absolutely no argument with you! I mentioned the chocolate incident because that's what I referred to a few weeks ago. I am well aware of the different types of trafficking that goes on. In fact the link I gave earlier is not highlighting the chocolate issue. This is the topic of the page I linked to in my first post.

"Candy was 15. Her parents were persuaded, tricked, to let her be taken from her West African home to a new life in England. She was sold – ‘Trafficked.’ When she arrived, she was taken to a brothel and abused every hour, every day. Stories like Candy’s are happening all the time, making People Trafficking the world’s fastest growing illegal trade. We have to act now to stop it."

So, if anyone would like to add their names to the petition, please feel free to do so. The link is at the beginning of the thread.

11.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 12:59 pm

All I am saying is people who use prostitutes and take drugs support this industry. They go hand in hand - and until the enormous organisations that support this industry (not just illegal ones - people in very "high places" make profit) are stopped, no amount of petitions will change it

Too much money is involved. People will fight to the death to keep it

12.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:08 pm

oh, think of poor men who need thousands of candys.
if you stop the trade, men will suffer.

13.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:10 pm

I made a simple request. If people agree with petitions they can sign. If they don't agree with petitions, they don't need to sign. People can always find alternative ways to support the fight against people trafficking.

I think we have the same view with regard to people trafficking AEnigma.

I see this thread is fast becoming something different to the original intention.

So, everyone, please read my initial post and decide for yourselves.

14.       MrX67
2540 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:29 pm

such a dishonorable trade,but pity this dirty moneys flying from country to another country by geeting more each new day,and pity innocent majority watching this dirty game as a watcher,so seems world needs new stronger civil or official organizations for keep humanity honor and for creat common ethic rules.Money musn't be the once superior while decaying all world with its dirty side or face....

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:33 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, think of poor men who need thousands of candys.
if you stop the trade, men will suffer.


I hope they will simply die.

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:37 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Where can I buy fairtrade drugs for Portokal?


Haha..
I think you can get fairtrade drugs infront of camden tube station in London.
Because, almost all dealers are afro caribbeans and the packaging is quite poor..It got to be fairtrade..

17.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 09:43 pm

Quoting peace train:

..............So, everyone, please read my initial post and decide for yourselves.



Thanks peace train, I agree, and will sign. It is a very serious problem.

AEnigma has a point though. As long as there are patrons for these "businesses", it will continue. Until they are are filled with revulsion at the prospect of patronizing such establishments, it will go on.

Consciousness raising is in order.

18.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 10:44 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting peace train:

..............So, everyone, please read my initial post and decide for yourselves.



Thanks peace train, I agree, and will sign. It is a very serious problem.

AEnigma has a point though. As long as there are patrons for these "businesses", it will continue. Until they are are filled with revulsion at the prospect of patronizing such establishments, it will go on.

Consciousness raising is in order.



Thanks Alameda

I agree with her and awareness has to start somewhere. One can only hope that the UN will take it seriously, 1 million signatures actually isn't that much.

19.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 10 Feb 2008 Sun 03:00 am

Many thanks to everyone who read the thread and added their signature. Here's an update from Stop the Traffik:



Your text message, your signed postcard, your freedom wall, your facebook sign up, your web sign up, your hand raised and commitment ALL COUNT.

THANK YOU!

OUR VOICES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE HEARD. THE MILLION MATTERS.

Your million signatures will make a difference to what can be done to:

1PREVENT THE SALE OF PEOPLE

2PROTECT THE VICTIMS

3PROSECUTE THE TRAFFICKERS

STOP THE TRAFFIK is taking over a million declarations to the UNITED NATIONS on 13 February 2008.

We are taking a STOP THE TRAFFIK team to participate in the UN conference.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WHAT WILL WE DO WHEN WE ARE THERE?

1We will present our global declaration at the opening ceremony of the first GLOBAL UN GIFT (Global Initiative to Fight Trafficking) conference.

2We are leading the youth forum and bringing young people from around the world to present:

You’re never too young to be trafficked and your never too young to join the fight to combat trafficking.

3We will launch the STOP THE TRAFFIK Global Fund (more details to follow in March)

The million is the beginning of so much more.

We will be in touch after the event with photos, news of what happened and WHAT’S NEXT …

FREEDOM DAY 2 COMING UP IN NOVEMBER …
A CHOCOLATE CAMPAIGN FOR EASTER …
HOW CAN YOU BE PART OF THE STOP THE TRAFFIK GLOBAL FUND AND OTHER EVENTS IN 2008 …


YOU ARE PART OF A MILLION—YOU MADE IT COUNT

THANK YOU!

STOP THE TRAFFIK Coordinating Team
Enquiries: info@stopthetraffik.org



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