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Memorize Ayat Al-Kursi (The greatest verse of the Quran)
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 04:59 am |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0EXVNwbs3k
In the name of Allah the Most Merciful, and Compassionate Allah
There is no god but He,
The Living, the Everlasting,
Slumber seizes Him not, neither sleep,
To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth.
Who is there that can intercede with His, except by His leave?
He knows what lies before them and what is after them,
And they comprehend not anything of His Knowledge save as He wills.
His throne comprises the heavens and the earth,
The preserving of them fatigues Him not,
And He is the All-High, All-Glorious.
[Al-Quran: Surat al-Baqarah, Ayah 255
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 09:49 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0EXVNwbs3k
In the name of Allah the Most Merciful, and Compassionate Allah
There is no god but He,
The Living, the Everlasting,
Slumber seizes Him not, neither sleep,
To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth.
Who is there that can intercede with His, except by His leave?
He knows what lies before them and what is after them,
And they comprehend not anything of His Knowledge save as He wills.
His throne comprises the heavens and the earth,
The preserving of them fatigues Him not,
And He is the All-High, All-Glorious.
[Al-Quran: Surat al-Baqarah, Ayah 255 |
thanks Ros ,
I'll write the verse in arabic to moslems and turkish friends whom know some arabic.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الله لا اله الا هو الحي القيوم لا تأخذه سنة ولا نوم ,له ما في السموات وما في الارض من ذا الذي يشفع عنده الا بأذنه يعلم مابين ايديهم وما خلفهم ولا يحيطون بشيء من علمه الا بما شاء وسع كرسيه السموات والارض ولا يؤده حفظهما وهو العلي العظيم
صدق الله العظيم
can you help me to translate it to turkish
thanks 
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 11:26 am |
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Sorry to disappoint you Elham, I am unable to read Arabic and have minimal knowledge of Turkish.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 11:52 am |
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I dont really understand why this has been posted here. Why do I want to memorise part of the Quran or any other religious text? 
I presume muslims already have access to this text?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:01 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I dont really understand why this has been posted here. Why do I want to memorise part of the Quran or any other religious text?
I presume muslims already have access to this text? |
Well freedom of speech simply 
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:04 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting AEnigma III: I dont really understand why this has been posted here. Why do I want to memorise part of the Quran or any other religious text?
I presume muslims already have access to this text? |
Well freedom of speech simply |
It is not an opinion, it is text from the Quran, with no explanation with regards to it's being posted here :-S
Shall I post part of the Bible, suggesting you memorise it?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:25 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting AEnigma III: I dont really understand why this has been posted here. Why do I want to memorise part of the Quran or any other religious text?
I presume muslims already have access to this text? |
Well freedom of speech simply |
It is not an opinion, it is text from the Quran, with no explanation with regards to it's being posted here :-S
Shall I post part of the Bible, suggesting you memorise it? |
I dont really mind if you do that
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:26 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: I dont really mind if you do that |
OK
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:44 pm |
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Let's memorise Psalm 137 of the Jewish Bible:
There we sat down, by the rivers in Babylon.
We cried when we remembered Zion.
There we hung up our harps on the willow trees
For there the people that made us prisoners were very unkind.
"Sing us a song" they shouted. "Make us laugh with a song from Zion!"
We just cannot sing the LORD’s song in a foreign land.
Jerusalem, if I forget you my right hand
My tongue will stick to the top of my mouth if I do not remember you, Jerusalem.
I think of you more than the things that I like best.
LORD, remember the people of Edom.
This is what they said in the Day of Jerusalem.
"Knock it down, knock it down to its *foundations!"
Daughter of Babylon, someone will destroy you!
That person will do to you what you did to us.
He will be very happy then!
He will catch your children and hit them with a rock.
He will be very happy then!
(Sorry I do not have the Hebrew translation - perhaps someone can post if for me? )
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:49 pm |
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Am I not only doing the same as Roswitha just did?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:50 pm |
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Hey AEnigma - why did you choose this Pslam ?
Have a lovely day.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:50 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: Hey AEnigma - why did you choose this Pslam ?
Have a lovely day.
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I thought we should memorise it too
have a lovely day too 
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:51 pm |
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Yes, Rossy - why did you post it ? Could you answer please - I am genuinely curious. There is no discussion linked to this ????
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:52 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: i think it has another name though. |
It is also called Koren Tanakh
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:54 pm |
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Also known to Christians as The Old Testament. Or Torah to the Jews.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:56 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
There we hung up our harps on the willow tree
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Anyone got a spare willow tree? It is required for AEnigma's harp 
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 12:57 pm |
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Quoting peace train:
Anyone got a spare willow tree? It is required for AEnigma's harp |
I love your double standards - would you also quote and joke about part of the Quran?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:05 pm |
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Come on Roswitha - tell us why you did it ???
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:06 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting peace train:
Anyone got a spare willow tree? It is required for AEnigma's harp |
I love your double standards - would you also quote and joke about part of the Quran? |
Please don't tell me the Psalm post was a sincere action AEnigma. Absolutely nobody will believe you.
I quoted a line you posted from the bible.
My 'joke' was about your reason for your choice of passage.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:14 pm |
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Quoting peace train: Please don't tell me the Psalm post was a sincere action AEnigma. Absolutely nobody will believe you.
I quoted a line you posted from the bible.
My 'joke' was about your reason for your choice of passage. |
Who's pretending? My point was proved I think, that is is "OK" to quote the Quran on this site, but not OK to quote other religious texts
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:18 pm |
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And Rossy still stays quiet !!!
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:22 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: And Rossy still stays quiet !!! |
Now then, no need to get in a pickle... 'Patience is a virtue'.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:24 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting peace train: Please don't tell me the Psalm post was a sincere action AEnigma. Absolutely nobody will believe you.
I quoted a line you posted from the bible.
My 'joke' was about your reason for your choice of passage. |
Who's pretending? My point was proved I think, that is is "ok" to quote the Quran on this site, but not OK to quote other religious texts |
Also...Enigma... Patience.... you haven't been proven yet...wait a little more. In the mean time, do something productive..and have a good weekend.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:25 pm |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: Quoting Cacık: And Rossy still stays quiet !!! |
Now then, no need to get in a pickle... 'Patience is a virtue'. |
Now now Waseem - you know I am not in a pickle - I just wonder why Rossy very very often puts up provocative posts and then mysteriously and conveniently disappears just to leave many poeple arguing with each other! The only point and this time, I am sure some of us would genuinely like to know her answer.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:28 pm |
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Quoting Waseem_UK: Also...Enigma... Patience.... you haven't been proven yet...wait a little more. In the mean time, do something productive..and have a good weekend. |
Dearest Waseem, patience? What am I waiting for?
You have a wonderful weekend too
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:28 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: Now now Waseem - you know I am not in a pickle - I just wonder why Rossy very very often puts up provocative posts and then mysteriously and conveniently disappears just to leave many poeple arguing with each other! The only point and this time, I am sure some of us would genuinely like to know her answer.
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Ros is the silent assassin! 
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:31 pm |
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Let's memorise Psalm V of the Gnostic Christians
Psalm V
Come, my Lord Jesus, the Savior of souls, who hast
saved me from the drunkenness and Error of the world .
Thou art the Paraclete whom I have loved since my youth:
thy Light shines forth in me like the lamp of light:
thou hast driven away from me the oblivion of Error :
thou hast taught me to bless God and his Lights.
I have distinguished this pair of trees of this pair of
kingdoms, . . . . . . , the bitter fountain and the holy essence of God.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:46 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting peace train: Please don't tell me the Psalm post was a sincere action AEnigma. Absolutely nobody will believe you.
I quoted a line you posted from the bible.
My 'joke' was about your reason for your choice of passage. |
Who's pretending? My point was proved I think, that is is "OK" to quote the Quran on this site, but not OK to quote other religious texts |
Depends on your motive AEnigma. You know exactly why you chose that particular passage. Is the Psalm you chose often quoted by belivers? I am genuinely interested as I don't know. The Lord's Prayer, from the Bible is extremely well known and recited by most Christians.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:48 pm |
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You are totally on a wrong way, this is not a good way to make critisms, when you have something to tell, you should do that directly without using otherways.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:50 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: You are totally on a wrong way, this is not a good way to make critisms, when you have something to tell, you should do that directly without using otherways.
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Dear Sui, I made a polite criticism which was "direct" and your answer was "it is freedom of speech" to post the Quran.
For Peace Train (from the gospels of Matthew and Luke):
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:53 pm |
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Quote:
Depends on your motive AEnigma. You know exactly why you chose that particular passage. Is the Psalm you chose often quoted by belivers? I am genuinely interested as I don't know. The Lord's Prayer, from the Bible is extremely well known and recited by most Christians. |
The Psalm you are thinking of is Psalm 23:
Psalm 23
A psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
3 he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
4 Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death, [a]
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6 Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:56 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: You are totally on a wrong way, this is not a good way to make critisms, when you have something to tell, you should do that directly without using otherways.
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Dear Sui, I made a polite criticism which was "direct" and your answer was "it is freedom of speech" to post the Quran.
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You know Aenigma, you cant chew the same gum for a long time! You cant have the same taste after some time...
anyway...i am going out... there is a bright sunny day where i am now...
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:57 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: You are totally on a wrong way, this is not a good way to make critisms, when you have something to tell, you should do that directly without using otherways.
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Dear Sui, I made a polite criticism which was "direct" and your answer was "it is freedom of speech" to post the Quran.
For Peace Train (from the gospels of Matthew and Luke):
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen
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Thank you AEnigma but I already know it by heart.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 01:58 pm |
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Instead of focusing on my motives, why are you not focusing on Roswitha's motives for creating this thread
Anyway, its a beautiful day here too - have a great one
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 02:01 pm |
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Quote: Quote:
Depends on your motive AEnigma. You know exactly why you chose that particular passage. Is the Psalm you chose often quoted by belivers? I am genuinely interested as I don't know. The Lord's Prayer, from the Bible is extremely well known and recited by most Christians. |
The Psalm you are thinking of is Psalm 23:
Psalm 23
A psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
3 he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
4 Even though I walk
through the valley of the shadow of death, [a]
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6 Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.
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Thanks. I know that Psalm by heart already. I don't know, by heart, the Psalm AEnigma quoted though.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 02:04 pm |
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Quoting peace train: Thanks. I know that Psalm by heart already. I don't know, by heart, the Psalm AEnigma quoted though.
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Which one? The one from the Old Testament or from the Gnostic Christians? As I presume you are neither a Jew or a Gnostic, then why should you know them by heart?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 02:04 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Instead of focusing on my motives, why are you not focusing on Roswitha's motives for creating this thread
Anyway, its a beautiful day here too - have a great one |
The first question conveniently forgotten - as usual !
It is snowing here in Istanbul.
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 02:04 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Instead of focusing on my motives, why are you not focusing on Roswitha's motives for creating this thread
Anyway, its a beautiful day here too - have a great one |
Because he's not interested?
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16 Feb 2008 Sat 02:15 pm |
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This is not an appropriate topic for this site.
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