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How do Turkish people think about this 'movie'?
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 12:31 am |
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Quoting janissary: ohh poor you u cant offend us now(( |
I guess you didn't read what we said at all or you deliberatly misunderstood what has been said. Anyway, if you feel offended, you should complain to the imams ın the film who said those things. Not to the guy who published it. However, I am still not behind that film  (if only he had left out the last minute with his own thoughts.. they were  )
I find it harsh of you to say that WE want to offend YOU. In case I misunderstood your words wrong, my apologies.
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 09:13 am |
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Quoting janissary: ohh poor you u cant offend us now(( |
:-S
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 11:22 am |
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Yes, Yes, None of you want to offend turkish ppl. maybe u are trying to make us stronger, that s why u post some videos. but if I see myself stronger, I can watch some of them on youtube. but thanks anyway.
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 11:53 am |
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Quoting janissary: Yes, Yes, None of you want to offend turkish ppl. maybe u are trying to make us stronger, that s why u post some videos. but if I see myself stronger, I can watch some of them on youtube. but thanks anyway.
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We post them because we wonder if the video got any reactions in Turkey, like it did in other muslimcountries, or like it did in the Netherlands. How many times do I have to say I am not against the publication of the film, but against the one-sided view that it shows? The Netherlands and its politics have been upside down because of such an idiot film. Please don't think we are trying to make you stronger, there's enough work to do here 
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 12:50 pm |
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What has all this got to do with Turkish politics?
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 01:02 pm |
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I wondered the same. Have been looking for an appropriate forum to move the thread to, but couldn't really decide and then it was breakfast time I thought living-working in Turkey is the 'best' choice, as it's not really off-topic either? Anyway, your pick, since you moderate Politics forum 
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 01:29 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting janissary: Yes, Yes, None of you want to offend turkish ppl. maybe u are trying to make us stronger, that s why u post some videos. but if I see myself stronger, I can watch some of them on youtube. but thanks anyway.
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We post them because we wonder if the video got any reactions in Turkey, like it did in other muslimcountries, or like it did in the Netherlands. How many times do I have to say I am not against the publication of the film, but against the one-sided view that it shows? The Netherlands and its politics have been upside down because of such an idiot film. Please don't think we are trying to make you stronger, there's enough work to do here |
it did reactions in other muslim countries. and u wonder what will it do? and u know it will be same for us too. are u doing a scientific test on Turkish ppl? everybody says it s a bad video, u must know that it will offend us too. so what are u trying to do?
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29 Mar 2008 Sat 01:42 pm |
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Quoting janissary: it did reactions in other muslim countries. and u wonder what will it do? and u know it will be same for us too. are u doing a scientific test on Turkish ppl? everybody says it s a bad video, u must know that it will offend us too. so what are u trying to do? |
Well, you know why I am curious? I thought it would be a big insulting video about Wilders' OWN opinion on Islam. So in Holland we were all waiting for a very rude and disrespectful film. It turned out to be much 'softer' than we were all waiting for, and there have been no problems in mosques in the Netherlands, I believe some even showed the film. So we just wondered if there was relief, anger, or whatever in your country No intention at all to offend, especially considering all Dutch people in this thread mentioned not to be behind the content of the film.
I suppose you have watched it before commenting on a forum regarding it.. Aren't you more angry with the imams in the film claiming the Islam to be violent, than with the guy who publishes it? I think those Imams in the film really have a sick mind, and I find it a pity that our politician chose to make such a one-sided video
Anyway I have said enough about it, I cant hear the word 'film' for another decade, the news has been full of it here for months. And all for nothing. I hope you understand my disappointment in your immediate reaction that all we want to do is offend you.
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31 Mar 2008 Mon 12:40 am |
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so what does what these imams tell prove??? I live in America and most of the people don`t hesitate to throw out sick ideas like that America should nuke mid east? and when I oppose, they say that there is freedom of speech in America. If I said we should nuke America, I would land in guantanamo to spend rest of my life in a very civilized torture cell. See, freedom of speech doesn`t apply to everybody.
Now why doesn`t Wilders (btw, this man looks disgustingly funny whith his dyed hair, what a character!) show these "ultra-civilized" western people in his movie too.
This is how the dirty western-christian propaganda works. those who call Muslims terrorists for al qaida killed 5000 Christians, don`t even care about hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed by the Christians in Iraq. So who is actually terrorist???
the crusaders who killed tens of millions of Muslims for nothing were the biggest terrorists of all times. Their descendants genocided the Incas, Mayas, Indian Americans, Jews, Algerians, murdered millions of Africans, Bosnians, Turks(yes Turks... though you will never hear about it in the West, millions of Turkish civilians got murdered in the WW1 in the Balkans and in the eastern Anatolia by the Armenians. Later on, thousands of Turks got killed by Stalin), but this doesn`t make you stop you calling yourself civilized and us uncivilized.
So Delikizin or whatever, are you from Holland???
Have you ever been treated like a dog in Turkey for being Dutch? If you had been, you would call us uncivilized for sure. But I was treated like a dog (even worse) in the schiphol airport two years ago just because I had a Turkish passport, and I was there just to take a connecting flight to America. Now what should I call you???
So briefly, this movie of Wilders ( did I mention that he looks disgusting ) is just a good example of the western bigotry and hypocracy.
Go ahead call me a terrorist (though Im not a Muslim)
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31 Mar 2008 Mon 01:44 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika: This is how the dirty western-christian propaganda works. |
I wouldnt call it western-christian propaganda.. But it sure is anti-Islam propaganda in the worst way
Quoting tamikidakika:
but this doesn`t make you stop you calling yourself civilized and us uncivilized. |
Who is YOU and who is US. And who was talking about that? 
Quoting tamikidakika:
So Delikizin or whatever, are you from Holland???
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Does it really matter where I am from? But yes, I currently live in the Netherlands.
Quoting tamikidakika:
Have you ever been treated like a dog in Turkey for being Dutch? If you had been, you would call us uncivilized for sure. |
Not like a dog, but I did have some unpleasant harassments because I came form west europe. However, I think Turkey is far from being uncivilized. For a new member, you seem to know much about my thoughts upon Turkey? Has it occurred to you I may be a Hollandalı Türk?
Quoting tamikidakika:
( did I mention that he looks disgusting ) |
+1 Totally agree with you.
He is one of the persons who stayed in puberty too long 
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31 Mar 2008 Mon 01:52 am |
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well, in this case your being a Dutch Turk doesn`t make any difference because I was talking about the westerners in general.
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