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1.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 09:35 pm

this post is for TC members who always criticise Women/children Rights in Turkey.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7348079.stm

2.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 09:47 pm

That is what I call 'a lesson' to the people who critisize Turkey!!
This is a slap on their face!!
This is a check-mate situation.lol
I dont think anybody will DARE to critisize Turkey about womens right..
Not after this post!!!
Phew!!!

3.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 10:32 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

That is what I call 'a lesson' to the people who critisize Turkey!!
This is a slap on their face!!
This is a check-mate situation.lol
I dont think anybody will DARE to critisize Turkey about womens right..
Not after this post!!!
Phew!!!



HANDSOM!!! you be quiet....me and the other wives have everything we need! Our husband is good to us!! He only beats us when we are bed and I get to leave the compound once a year to buy new underwear! What's wrong with that?

4.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:18 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

this post is for TC members who always criticise Women/children Rights in Turkey.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7348079.stm


Lapi, canim. If you so much don't give a crap about women's rights in Turkey, you can go on being quiet about it. Your pride is very clearly more important then people's lives.

Of course America has deep problems with women's rights, I can write a book about it. But no matter how much you'd like to think that Turkey has no problems, America is still 100x a better place for women.

5.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:23 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

That is what I call 'a lesson' to the people who critisize Turkey!!
This is a slap on their face!!
This is a check-mate situation.lol
I dont think anybody will DARE to critisize Turkey about womens right..
Not after this post!!!
Phew!!!



HANDSOM!!! you be quiet....me and the other wives have everything we need! Our husband is good to us!! He only beats us when we are bed and I get to leave the compound once a year to buy new underwear! What's wrong with that?



I havent surprised after I see your posts.

dont try to hide your rubbish under carpets...
I had meant that kind of things can happen all over the world...even in a country whose citizens boast of their civilization...

6.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:29 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

this post is for TC members who always criticise Women/children Rights in Turkey.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7348079.stm


Lapi, canim. If you so much don't give a crap about women's rights in Turkey, you can go on being quiet about it. Your pride is very clearly more important then people's lives.

Of course America has deep problems with women's rights, I can write a book about it. But no matter how much you'd like to think that Turkey has no problems, America is still 100x a better place for women.

,

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...I wanna tell u that u have same problem as well..then while u criticise turkey cruelly,u should look at your own country firstly...

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:32 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I had meant that kind of things can happen all over the world...even in a country whose citizens boast of their civilization...


Lapi, canim. I couldn't agree with you more!
There's a lot of shit going on in America, and thank goodness most Americans aren't pretending it's otherwise.

Lapi, your country's citizens also boast about their civilization.......

Look, we simply care about Turkey and Turkish women and we want to talk about their difficult lives, can we?

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:36 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...I wanna tell u that u have same problem as well..then while u criticise turkey cruelly,u should look at your own country firstly...


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.
I do look at my own country as well and criticize them cruelly (they don't swear at me for that though). What I find is that women's rights in Turkey are still in a worse condition.

9.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:56 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I had meant that kind of things can happen all over the world...even in a country whose citizens boast of their civilization...


Lapi, canim. I couldn't agree with you more!
There's a lot of shit going on in America, and thank goodness most Americans aren't pretending it's otherwise.

Lapi, your country's citizens also boast about their civilization.......

Look, we simply care about Turkey and Turkish women and we want to talk about their difficult lives, can we?



u cant

10.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 11:57 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...I wanna tell u that u have same problem as well..then while u criticise turkey cruelly,u should look at your own country firstly...


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.
I do look at my own country as well and criticize them cruelly (they don't swear at me for that though). What I find is that women's rights in Turkey are still in a worse condition.



thanks god Im not woman
maybe they swear who know:

11.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 03:05 am

Am I missing something here? What does this have to do with womens rights? Clearly these children were taken away during an investigative matter of child abuse etc.. Which goes on everyday, sadly. I think our society however should have better conditions for these children while they investigate. There is no simple solution to this, since the consistancy of reported abuse cases aren't investigated half the time. I think the question is when and how should the government intervene when the suspection of an abuse takes place.

I don't think you can compare womens rights in the U.S. to Turkey. Again. we do have many problems here but not to the extent of Turkey.

12.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 06:14 am

What a woman must do (with a special dedication to Lapinkulta ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hAEh8VsQc

13.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 08:24 am

Quote:



I don't think you can compare womens rights in the U.S. to Turkey. Again. we do have many problems here but not to the extent of Turkey.



u dont think but I think,hah!
u have a problem as u seen on the newspaper..in a country which is called modernised, women had to wear same things, color,size; has to same type hair..it is like concentration camp.it has never happened in my country anytime even in middle age
so sekerim,dont compare my country with yours.if u wanna, look at modernised western countries

14.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 09:37 am

Quoting Lapinkulta:


u dont think but I think,hah!
u have a problem as u seen on the newspaper..in a country which is called modernised, women had to wear same things, color,size; has to same type hair..it is like concentration camp.it has never happened in my country anytime even in middle age
so sekerim,dont compare my country with yours.if u wanna, look at modernised western countries


First of all, the Westerners here have never claimed our countries are perfect and don't have issues.

Secondly, you seem to have missed a incredibly important point in the story here....the government stepped in and took all 416 children out of that environment because of abuse!!! The adults there were doing terrible and unlawful things and the vast majority of people here do not condone what was happening in that compound!!!

The only thing you have succeeded in proving by posting this is an obvious contempt of the West and that you will look for anything you can find to try to put it down.
You might want to try reading a bit deeper into the things you find though.

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 09:45 am

Quoting girleegirl:

The only thing you have succeeded in proving by posting this is an obvious contempt of the West and that you will look for anything you can find to try to put it down.
You might want to try reading a bit deeper into the things you find though.


I agree with this...

16.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 10:07 am

Perhaps Lapin didn't understand this article. It was about a righteous decision of a court to take away abused (or, even, allegedly abused) children away.

This is a good thing about the US judicial mechanism, degil mi?

Also, it stated clearly at the end, that polygamy is illegal in the US. So, what happened there, was separating minors from parents occupied in illegal procedures that may be harmful to the kids.

What does it have to do with women's rights? Adults were there out of their own consent and minors have been taken away by the police and thus had their rights protected...

17.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 10:16 am

If you want to point out injustice to women, here's something to give you an insight into the matter:

Pay:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=167

the number of women in the US Congress
(for those who don't know, there are 435 members in the House of Representatives and 100 senators - see what number out of 535 are women)

http://womenincongress.house.gov/data/wic-by-congress.html?cong=110

See lapin, you don't need sensation to see that equality guaranteed and exercised are two different things

18.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 10:31 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting girleegirl:

The only thing you have succeeded in proving by posting this is an obvious contempt of the West and that you will look for anything you can find to try to put it down.
You might want to try reading a bit deeper into the things you find though.


I agree with this...



Turkish proverb: ''körler sağırlar birbirini ağırlar. ''

19.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 12:43 pm


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.


So . . . according to you: Islam is none of your business, men are none of your business and Turkish issues are none of your business. These are only a few of the topics that are none of your business as you are not a Muslim, a man or Turkish...

did u understand?if u didnt,I can tell u these with another language..

sweet kisses ,şekerim

20.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 01:13 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

sweet kisses ,şekerim


good night canim, we'll talk tomorrow

21.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 04:02 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.


So . . . according to you: Islam is none of your business, men are none of your business and Turkish issues are none of your business. These are only a few of the topics that are none of your business as you are not a Muslim, a man or Turkish...

did u understand?if u didnt,I can tell u these with another language..

sweet kisses ,şekerim



Now this was funny. Trapped by her own words!

22.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 04:13 pm

Am I the only one who spotted sarcasm in Cat's "you're not a woman so you can't discuss it" thing?

Sorry Cat if you meant it seriously and not as a laugh at the natio club of Turks.

23.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 05:39 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...I wanna tell u that u have same problem as well..then while u criticise turkey cruelly,u should look at your own country firstly...


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.
I do look at my own country as well and criticize them cruelly (they don't swear at me for that though). What I find is that women's rights in Turkey are still in a worse condition.



So . . . according to you: Islam is none of your business, men are none of your business and Turkish issues are none of your business. These are only a few of the topics that are none of your business as you are not a Muslim, a man or Turkish...

did u understand?if u didnt,I can tell u these with another language..

sweet kisses ,şekerim

24.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 05:41 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.

((((((((((((This sentence was written by catwoman.))))))) then I had written these that below:


So . . . according to you: Islam is none of your business, men are none of your business and Turkish issues are none of your business. These are only a few of the topics that are none of your business as you are not a Muslim, a man or Turkish...

did u understand?if u didnt,I can tell u these with another language..

sweet kisses ,şekerim



Now this was funny. Trapped by her own words!

25.       incişka
746 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 07:45 pm


Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


You are not a woman so it's not your business to speak about women's rights dear.

((((((((((((This sentence was written by catwoman.))))))) then I had written these that below:


So . . . according to you: Islam is none of your business, men are none of your business and Turkish issues are none of your business. These are only a few of the topics that are none of your business as you are not a Muslim, a man or Turkish...

did u understand?if u didnt,I can tell u these with another language..

sweet kisses ,şekerim



Now this was funny. Trapped by her own words!



Oo my God lol Lapin seems to be a clever guy

26.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 08:15 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Am I the only one who spotted sarcasm in Cat's "you're not a woman so you can't discuss it" thing?


I thought 'Cat being sarcastic' too..

But however, I must say that the entire thread seemed very sarcastic to me.
Because it is like, a person trawling the net and finding rape incident news in turkey and claiming that 'Eureka Eureka!!! here we go, you are all rapists'.
And also as teas mentioned, the news itself is nothing to do with women's right at all in generic terms.
Those cults, in my view, are just bunch of lunatics..

27.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 09:00 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Am I the only one who spotted sarcasm in Cat's "you're not a woman so you can't discuss it" thing?


I thought 'Cat being sarcastic' too..

But however, I must say that the entire thread seemed very sarcastic to me.
Because it is like, a person trawling the net and finding rape incident news in turkey and claiming that 'Eureka Eureka!!! here we go, you are all rapists'.
And also as teas mentioned, the news itself is nothing to do with women's right at all in generic terms.
Those cults, in my view, are just bunch of lunatics..



SARCASM???? What's that?

28.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 09:50 pm

If we were having an intelligent conversation, my previous words would have been sarcastic, but with Lapin... who had just said that there's no problems with women's situation in his country, who found some unrelated article and then made some funny conclusions, and who cannot understand what I meant and now compares his ignorance about gender inequality to my criticism of open statements and actions of many Muslims... well, with Lapin there's pretty much little hope to get anywhere on this topic. Maybe he's just pretending that he doesn't get it... I don't know. Maybe he feels so offended when his country is criticized and cannot accept it... :-S

29.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 12:08 am

Quoting catwoman:

If we were having an intelligent conversation, my previous words would have been sarcastic, but with Lapin... who had just said that there's no problems with women's situation in his country, who found some unrelated article and then made some funny conclusions, and who cannot understand what I meant and now compares his ignorance about gender inequality to my criticism of open statements and actions of many Muslims... well, with Lapin there's pretty much little hope to get anywhere on this topic. Maybe he's just pretending that he doesn't get it... I don't know. Maybe he feels so offended when his country is criticized and cannot accept it... :-S



I have never said that there isnt any problem with women right in TR.I wanted to say ''u should look at your own country's ppl firstly,before criticizing Turkey cruelly...''

dont try to hide your own countries rubbish under carpet( I like this so muchhhh
sekerim, u understand?

30.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 12:56 am

Here is what you said earlier my friend:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...




Lapin, when you say that I'm hiding something about my country (poland), please be specific about it, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

Just for your information, since you keep on pushing the ball to "my country", here is a list of 177 countries ranked by the index of gender equality. Poland is #37 and Turkey is #84 (US is #12).

2007/2008 Report of Gender-related development index by country

(GDI = gender-related development index. This index measures achievement in the same basic capabilities as the HDI does, but takes note of inequality in achievement between women and men. The methodology used imposes a penalty for inequality, such that the GDI falls when the achievement levels of both women and men in a country go down or when the disparity between their achievements increases. The greater the gender disparity in basic capabilities, the lower a country's GDI compared with its HDI. The GDI is simply the HDI discounted, or adjusted downwards, for gender inequality.)

31.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 01:49 am

Quoting catwoman:

Here is what you said earlier my friend:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...





But he admited that Turhish women have problems... here ! :-S

32.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 06:06 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting catwoman:

Here is what you said earlier my friend:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...





But he admited that Turhish women have problems... here ! :-S


Ok Canli, you're right... I misunderstood then. Sorry Lapi.

33.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 08:12 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting catwoman:

Here is what you said earlier my friend:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

I dont think that turkish women havent got any problem...





But he admited that Turhish women have problems... here ! :-S


Ok Canli, you're right... I misunderstood then. Sorry Lapi.



haha,sekerim, I had told u that I could have written this by another language if u didnt understand)

34.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 09:22 am

Quoting Lapinkulta:

haha,sekerim, I had told u that I could have written this by another language if u didnt understand)


lol
(even I make mistakes sometimes! hehehehe sorry for misunderstanding you.)

35.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 10:14 am

Yet still I don't see what women's rights have to do with this thread

36.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 12:55 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Yet still I don't see what women's rights have to do with this thread




I still dont understand why polish people talk about TR so much...what made them talk about TR?..Their country is the worst of EU...if I were polish, I would have so many things to discuss about my own country..)Thanks god Im Turkish...

if I were canadian or australian, I would talk about TR more coz I couldnt find so limited things about Aust. and canada)

37.       libralady
5152 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 02:12 pm

To me this is nothing to do with women rights, it is to do with the cranky religious cults that eminate through out the US and suck vulnerable victims, usually children into their sick ways of life.

38.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 03:49 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Yet still I don't see what women's rights have to do with this thread



İ agree it has nothing to do with women's rights,and also there is no such comparison between this and situations in Türkiye regarding women or childrens either because i dont think such compound ever exist in Türkiye !
That is SİCK!

As for women's rights,all you have to do is just google it
''women abuse'' or ''Violence against women'' or what ever like,and you will get so many links that we can fill this thread with.''sadly''
But i think Lapin's point was,and is...''every country has its own S**ts ,so dont take it all on Türkiye''

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