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1.       incişka
746 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:04 pm

I'm really curious if anyone got some experiences on this

2.       magnadea
0 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:09 pm

Is it April Fool's Day?

3.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:35 pm

Quoting incişka:

I'm really curious if anyone got some experiences on this



I am running one hundred miles an hour in opposite direction!

4.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:38 pm

Quoting libralady:

I am running one hundred miles an hour in opposite direction!



I am following closely behind....at 2 miles per hour

5.       incişka
746 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:41 pm

Quoting magnadea:

Is it April Fool's Day?



Why??? It's not... I'm talking about creating energy balls, reading minds, being able to manipulate objects without touching them or having weird dreams...

6.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:44 pm

Quoting incişka:

Quoting magnadea:

Is it April Fool's Day?



Why??? It's not... I'm talking about creating energy balls, reading minds, being able to manipulate objects without touching them or having weird dreams...



How old are you? It is an interesting subject when you are in your teens, but have you EVER ACTUALLY seen any of this happen? It was a great Victorian parlour game that everyone seems to now forget was a trick!

7.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:47 pm

Quoting incişka:


Why??? It's not... I'm talking about creating energy balls, reading minds, being able to manipulate objects without touching them or having weird dreams...


I can manipulate men without touching them....does that count???

8.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:48 pm

Quoting girleegirl:


I can manipulate men without touching them....does that count???



I can manipulate them even better! (But not without touching! lol )

9.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:50 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


I can manipulate them even better! (But not without touching! lol )


They are just like putty in a woman's hands....but doing it without touching is more of a challenge!!

10.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 06:52 pm

Quoting incişka:

Quoting magnadea:

Is it April Fool's Day?



Why??? It's not... I'm talking about creating energy balls, reading minds, being able to manipulate objects without touching them or having weird dreams...



That is why I run! Weird dreams are my speciality! but I put that down to eating too much cheese!

11.       Avalon
381 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 07:00 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting incişka:

Quoting magnadea:

Is it April Fool's Day?



Why??? It's not... I'm talking about creating energy balls, reading minds, being able to manipulate objects without touching them or having weird dreams...



That is why I run! Weird dreams are my speciality! but I put that down to eating too much cheese!

cheese antyparapsychology diet???Can I have a menu for a week?Due to bamboozle nightmares?Thank u in advance

12.       incişka
746 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 07:07 pm

I thought this thread wouldnt turn into a make-fun thing but it has already happened.. I am serious, and waiting for replies from those who only really had experiences or have some knowledge.

13.       Avalon
381 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 07:13 pm

Quoting incişka:

I thought this thread wouldnt turn into a make-fun thing but it has already happened.. I am serious, and waiting for replies from those who only really had experiences or have some knowledge.

Seriously speaking what exactly do you want to know?Dreams explanation?energy transfer?making world of illusion?

14.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 07:25 pm

Quoting incişka:

I thought this thread wouldnt turn into a make-fun thing but it has already happened.. I am serious, and waiting for replies from those who only really had experiences or have some knowledge.



Sorry to make a bit of fun!

It is quite a specialist subject and not something most people get involved in. We did stuff like this at school and some girls got expelled. It is not encouraged. And yes I do have weird dreams, in colour, and like real life. I even dream that I am awake, and I don't know if I awake or asleep!

I have also had strange experiences after my Grandmother died and my brother-in-law was killed. I dreamt he was dead but walking around in a party of our friends, and only I could see him. He was dressed in the shroud that they put him in when he died. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was just checking up to make sure everyone was OK, and then left. It was the most distubing dream I have ever had. Then for a long time after that, my phone bleeped everynight at 2:00, the time the police came to our house.

But I have never been to a psychic or anything like that!

15.       incişka
746 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 07:34 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting incişka:

I thought this thread wouldnt turn into a make-fun thing but it has already happened.. I am serious, and waiting for replies from those who only really had experiences or have some knowledge.



Sorry to make a bit of fun!

It is quite a specialist subject and not something most people get involved in. We did stuff like this at school and some girls got expelled. It is not encouraged. And yes I do have weird dreams, in colour, and like real life. I even dream that I am awake, and I don't know if I awake or asleep!

I have also had strange experiences after my Grandmother died and my brother-in-law was killed. I dreamt he was dead but walking around in a party of our friends, and only I could see him. He was dressed in the shroud that they put him in when he died. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was just checking up to make sure everyone was OK, and then left. It was the most distubing dream I have ever had. Then for a long time after that, my phone bleeped everynight at 2:00, the time the police came to our house.

But I have never been to a psychic or anything like that!



Thank you.. I've been like that since childhood.. OK, I give up.

16.       incişka
746 posts
 26 May 2008 Mon 11:53 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:



How old are you? It is an interesting subject when you are in your teens, but have you EVER ACTUALLY seen any of this happen? It was a great Victorian parlour game that everyone seems to now forget was a trick!



I am 23 and yes I have seen and indeed I'm doing some of these things to some extent. Clear enough?

17.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:21 am

Quoting incişka:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:



How old are you? It is an interesting subject when you are in your teens, but have you EVER ACTUALLY seen any of this happen? It was a great Victorian parlour game that everyone seems to now forget was a trick!



I am 23 and yes I have seen and indeed I'm doing some of these things to some extent. Clear enough?


Can you give some examples?

18.       incişka
746 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:28 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting incişka:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:



How old are you? It is an interesting subject when you are in your teens, but have you EVER ACTUALLY seen any of this happen? It was a great Victorian parlour game that everyone seems to now forget was a trick!



I am 23 and yes I have seen and indeed I'm doing some of these things to some extent. Clear enough?


Can you give some examples?


Well, I'm told not to talk about that anymore with "normal" people. But I can say that I can read minds to some extent and I deliver messeages from death people to their living relatives. These dont happen often, but they happen when it is needed. It's out of my control.

19.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:37 am

Quoting incişka:


Well, I'm told not to talk about that anymore with 'normal' people. But I can say that I can read minds to some extent and I deliver messeages from death people to their living relatives. These dont happen often, but they happen when it is needed. It's out of my control.


Well then, you should have no problem telling handsom....he is far from normal.

You must know though that it would be much easier for you to get others to open up about their own experiences if you started out as being open about your own (and if you weren't being so cranky today!! )
I just wonder....who was it that told you not to talk to 'normal' people????

20.       incişka
746 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:41 am

My "Advisor" (dont ask more). But I'm gonna make my choice. I wanna stay normal too. It's too stressful.

21.       incişka
746 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:42 am

And dont worry im not cranky or mad.

22.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:04 am

Quoting incişka:

And dont worry im not cranky or mad.


Oh, I'm not.

23.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 02:04 am

Quoting incişka:

My "Advisor" (dont ask more). But I'm gonna make my choice. I wanna stay normal too. It's too stressful.


incişka
You are making me nervous now..
I hope you dont read minds remotely..

24.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 02:19 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting incişka:

My "Advisor" (dont ask more). But I'm gonna make my choice. I wanna stay normal too. It's too stressful.


incişka
You are making me nervous now..
I hope you dont read minds remotely..

thehandsom in danger can't believe it,well it is all parapsychology soooooooooooo .....beware

25.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 05:34 am

I see dead people....Aenigma, AenigmaII, AEnigma, she keeps speaking to me...somebody please tell me they see her too!!

26.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 06:41 am


Quoting Elisabeth:

I see dead people....Aenigma, AenigmaII, AEnigma, she keeps speaking to me...somebody please tell me they see her too!!


27.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:21 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I see dead people....Aenigma, AenigmaII, AEnigma, she keeps speaking to me...somebody please tell me they see her too!!


calm down Elisabeth TC ghost busters squad is coming....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If5phlHLOeQ

28.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:36 pm

well as i heard and read...

There are things like that, mytic powers etc. in Shamanism...

but why you act so weird to inciska... everybody in europa and in america tells about having positive energy, positive thoughts... about being successful...

you are so rude girls!!!

29.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 12:53 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

well as i heard and read...

There are things like that, mytic powers etc. in Shamanism...

but why you act so weird to inciska... everybody in europa and in america tells about having positive energy, positive thoughts... about being successful...

you are so rude girls!!!

I do not think we are rude to Inciska,we are just assembly of jokers and we can joke about any topic Sui,you know that.Of course in the world there is the revival ,spiritual one called new age bringing people back to the divine source of mental and spiritual power.Isn't that strange that we live in civilisation which sends space shuttles,creates atomic bombs,etc...and still struggles with abilities of human brain as not discovered and used to its potential perfect device.World is full of events beyond our ken and full of mysteries.People often feel lost in it not being able to understand what is happening,looking for sense of life.
Anyway,parapsychology and sensoral perception is used even by serious authorities and goverments in espionage,crime detection.

30.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:03 pm

Quoting Avalon:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

well as i heard and read...

There are things like that, mytic powers etc. in Shamanism...

but why you act so weird to inciska... everybody in europa and in america tells about having positive energy, positive thoughts... about being successful...

you are so rude girls!!!

I do not think we are rude to Inciska,we are just assembly of jokers and we can joke about any topic Sui,you know that.Of course in the world there is the revival ,spiritual one called new age bringing people back to the divine source of mental and spiritual power.Isn't that strange that we live in civilisation which sends space shuttles,creates atomic bombs,etc...and still struggles with abilities of human brain as not discovered and used to its potential perfect device.World is full of events beyond our ken and full of misteries.




to my poor knowledge of 23 years, joke is a joke when everybody laughes it!!
but when one is serious about something, you can be some more sensitive, i know you can do that... it will be some hard for you but... give it a try...

oh you can joke anything about me, insult me etc. etc. i wouldnt care!!

but not everybody is like me, ofcourse there are mysteries in this world. we can start from the amazing balance of the creatures from little organisms to huge elephants!


p.s. dont offend personally Avalon, i said you generally... not personally



31.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:07 pm

some links to information about these experiments
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2007/02/uks_ministry_of_def.html
http://www.nickpope.net/remote_viewing.htm
and general
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_4.htm

32.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:11 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting Avalon:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

well as i heard and read...

There are things like that, mytic powers etc. in Shamanism...

but why you act so weird to inciska... everybody in europa and in america tells about having positive energy, positive thoughts... about being successful...

you are so rude girls!!!

I do not think we are rude to Inciska,we are just assembly of jokers and we can joke about any topic Sui,you know that.Of course in the world there is the revival ,spiritual one called new age bringing people back to the divine source of mental and spiritual power.Isn't that strange that we live in civilisation which sends space shuttles,creates atomic bombs,etc...and still struggles with abilities of human brain as not discovered and used to its potential perfect device.World is full of events beyond our ken and full of misteries.




to my poor knowledge of 23 years, joke is a joke when everybody laughes it!!
but when one is serious about something, you can be some more sensitive, i know you can do that... it will be some hard for you but... give it a try...

oh you can joke anything about me, insult me etc. etc. i wouldnt care!!

but not everybody is like me, ofcourse there are mysteries in this world. we can start from the amazing balance of the creatures from little organisms to huge elephants!


p.s. dont offend personally Avalon, i said you generally... not personally



right,and I apologise on behalf of everybody joking here,I simply feel that we in general exaggerated.Sorry Inciska

33.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:14 pm

Quoting Avalon:

right,and I apologise on behalf of everybody joking here,I simply feel that we in general exaggerated.Sorry Inciska



and on the behalf of the king of TLC, you are forgiven!!

if only you clean all the castle

34.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 01:20 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting Avalon:

right,and I apologise on behalf of everybody joking here,I simply feel that we in general exaggerated.Sorry Inciska



and on the behalf of the king of TLC, you are forgiven!!

if only you clean all the castle

how many kings TC has got? got totally confused..haha it means if u r the king thehandsom is disclaimer clean the castle? how?Morgan la fey took her broom,and disappeared in the early morning..ahhh,that was Lis's call for help.Morgan is the commandor in chief of busters squad.
with my bare hands? Avalon's skin is too gentle you will sit in dirty castle my lord!!!!

35.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 03:23 pm

There are many people who love a mystery. Even when an obvious cause is staring them in the face, they prefer to ignore it and see only the sensational.

A good example is something I suffer from, which is where you "wake up" during dream sleep. During dream sleep your body naturally paralyzes itself to prevent you acting out your dreams and harming yourself. If this goes wrong, you wake up and are paralyzed and experience "hallucinations" which feel quite real, but are just waking dreams. There is often a crushing feeling in the chest which accompanies this. Since my doctor explained this to me, it is amazing to see how these same symptoms have occured during history and been attributed to God, the devil, alien abduction and ghosts!!!!!

People are so busy looking for their mystical and magical experiences (be it religious or paranormal) that they miss the many REAL miracles around them and fail to appreciate them. The fact you can cut your finger and it heals itself, the miracle of birth, life itself is missed because you want to feel "special"!

36.       ciko
784 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 03:38 pm

so do you mean the strange creatures i saw last night in my room were just hallucinations?

37.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 03:40 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:



People are so busy looking for their mystical and magical experiences (be it religious or paranormal) that they miss the many REAL miracles around them and fail to appreciate them. The fact you can cut your finger and it heals itself, the miracle of birth, life itself is missed because you want to feel "special"!

Life is a miracle itself and we are all "special"in this way being able to get full enjoyment of it.

38.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 03:42 pm

Phew!!!
You are ALL a bit ABNORMAL.

And Aenigma, you went to a doctor for that? lol lol



modification: I just learnt that this "wake up" thing is quite common apparently..So I am changing my post

39.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 03:47 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Phew!!!
You are ALL a bit ABNORMAL.
And Aenigma, you went to a doctor for that? lol lol

Is that final diagnosis of phewish psychiatrist DRHANDSOM????

40.       incişka
746 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 04:06 pm

Thanx to everyone who replied to the thread, including those who call themselves jokers(!) and who are more sensitive.

To handsome: Dont worry, I dont read minds remotely, and as I said it happens when it is needed, out of my control.

To jokers(!) I dont have to prove anything to those jokers. Only if u were here with me when I get so angry with u and u would see what would happen to u. Sorry, when I'm angry I harm people unintentionally, just too much energy that I cannot control.I know, still u dont believe, but I dont care.

To Aenigma: Your post is just too simple for me. I can distinguish between what is real and what is not. I never had any of these symptoms u told. Those "wake up" dreams, never.. And I'm aware of all the miracles on earth, more than most of people I believe. But the earth is not only what u see. The difference between u and me is that I can see both and appreciate both. I hear voices talking to me when I am awake and I've already seen many psychiatrists. But all they I am "sane" enough. You have got the type of character who wants to say something against everything that contradicts with what u believe. U like playing "know-it-all". But indeed, u r like a little girl, scared, trying to defend herself all the time. U are so fragile. and u try to hide this by talking against everything.

To Sui: Thanx for being the most sensible person to reply in my thread.

To everyone: I wont be around for a long time. I dont know how long it will take. Maybe I'll never be here again.

To Catwoman: I feel out of this place now. Delete my account.

41.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 04:17 pm

Quoting incişka:



Only if u were here with me when I get so angry with u and u would see what would happen to u. Sorry, when I'm angry I harm people unintentionally, just too much energy that I cannot control.I know, still u dont believe, but I dont care. But u r not forgiven

The key to acceptance is forgiveness.It is the highest art of spiritual power and the most difficult.
And anger is nothing but fear.good luck,Inciska!

42.       incişka
746 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 04:24 pm

Dont make me talk more. I already modified my earlier post. Anger is not fear, it is a step, an exam that I have to pass on this way. If I were a person of "fear" I'd have been dead now. I dont need anybody's acceptence. I have enough ppl who accept me the way I am.Plz Dont write more or I will go more. I'm leaving the site without doing something wrong now.

43.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 04:30 pm

Quoting incişka:

Dont make me talk more. I already modified my earlier post. Anger is not fear, it is a step, an exam that I have to pass on this way. If I were a person of 'fear' I'd have been dead now. I dont need anybody's acceptence. I have enough ppl who accept me the way I am.Plz Dont write more or I will go more. I'm leaving the site without doing something wrong now.


Are you channeling lapin now?
If you are so insulted by a couple of jokes, sorry! But what is the point of making silly threats?

44.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 04:38 pm

My point was not about being accepted by others.My point was your own acceptance of what is happening to you and your own understanding .Why don't you try any parapsychological associations?I sure there must be one in your country as well .it is just a prompt.

45.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 07:33 pm

Inciska, come on. Don't get angry as nobody here wanted to laugh at you. It was the subject that you mentioned that's quite funny. See, most of us don't believe in paranormal phenomena and believe there's a rational explanation to all of them. That's why people approach it rather light-heartedly.

If you believe that paranormal exists and, moreover, you possess some abilities that cannot be explained otherwise. then why take those sceptical so seriously? You know this forum loves joking about everything. Life is usually not as jolly as our group here so understand that people take everything with a pinch of salt

I do agree that our brain's potential is not fully discovered. I believe that some people use more of it that others. We all heard about the placebo effect, self-suggestion and hypnosis. But, personally, I doubt that our ancestors hang around talking to whoever hears them.

Do reconsider leaving.

46.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 09:17 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Inciska, come on. Don't get angry as nobody here wanted to laugh at you. It was the subject that you mentioned that's quite funny. See, most of us don't believe in paranormal phenomena and believe there's a rational explanation to all of them. That's why people approach it rather light-heartedly.

If you believe that paranormal exists and, moreover, you possess some abilities that cannot be explained otherwise. then why take those sceptical so seriously? You know this forum loves joking about everything. Life is usually not as jolly as our group here so understand that people take everything with a pinch of salt

I do agree that our brain's potential is not fully discovered. I believe that some people use more of it that others. We all heard about the placebo effect, self-suggestion and hypnosis. But, personally, I doubt that our ancestors hang around talking to whoever hears them.

Do reconsider leaving.



+1!

47.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 09:23 pm

As a teenager I have been into those a lot too. I stepped aside from it, for several reasons. To sum up a long story short: Fırst I got very afraid of the dead people and wasnt able to get a simple night rest and after a while I simply stopped believing and I felt it brought me further away from 'normal life', the thing that is 'closest' to us 'normal people'. Im sure you are not like this İnçişka, but many people I know who are interested in those or claim to have such powers, have these strange spiritual lifestyles about 'how to find your innerpeace', 'how to use your energy levels to the maximum' etc. My answers to these are simple: combine things you have to with things you like, eat healthy and get enough sleep No need for these spiritual innerself kind of bullshit. It is not that this is directly linked to the abilities you speak of, but the image most people have of it, is because of people I described as above. You may call it prejudice, but of all the people I know in the spiritual world (and they are quite a lot since I was relaly into it a coupke of years ago), there is just one person who is 'normal'.
It is my very best friend, soulmate Id say whom I know since we were both just little, is very into those and is personally also very sensitive on certain subjects. He senses things and though his 'abilities' are not that developed as of some other people, he goes to them for advice and help etc. Actually it was just 2 days ago I received an email from him telling how some things had come true.

It's not that I dont believe at all. Like DD I highly doubt if theres ancestors talking to us, and believe there are quite some logical and medical reasons to many experiences. On the other hand, I know enough people who are 'sane' yet 'sensitive'. You often hear you have to be 'open' for it in order to receive such abilities or develop them. I'm open to it for others,I believe there is a possibility such a phenomenon existsi, but want to distantiate myself from it. Because I believe we don't see dead people because we are not supposed to.

48.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 09:37 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

There are many people who love a mystery. Even when an obvious cause is staring them in the face, they prefer to ignore it and see only the sensational.

A good example is something I suffer from, which is where you "wake up" during dream sleep. During dream sleep your body naturally paralyzes itself to prevent you acting out your dreams and harming yourself. If this goes wrong, you wake up and are paralyzed and experience "hallucinations" which feel quite real, but are just waking dreams. There is often a crushing feeling in the chest which accompanies this. Since my doctor explained this to me, it is amazing to see how these same symptoms have occured during history and been attributed to God, the devil, alien abduction and ghosts!!!!!

People are so busy looking for their mystical and magical experiences (be it religious or paranormal) that they miss the many REAL miracles around them and fail to appreciate them. The fact you can cut your finger and it heals itself, the miracle of birth, life itself is missed because you want to feel "special"!



YOU ARE SPECIAL...The aliens chose you! lol

49.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 10:15 pm

I believe in miracles, guardian angles so why not people having extrodinary gifts of having visions or speaking to the dead. I guess anything is possible..

50.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 11:40 pm

To be perfectly honest, some of my friends got together and bought me an hour with a psychic for my birthday. They know I am a very skeptical person. So here I am with this woman, who claims to be talking to my dead grandmother (I think it is a pretty safe bet that most people my age have a dead grandmother...but OK) and my grandmother, who didn't speak a word of English in her life, preceded to tell this complete stranger about all the wonderful things that will happen to me. By the end of the hour, I was beginning to realize that another hour of my life had been chipped away and wasted.....I was feeling pretty foolish and I am still waiting for all that was told to come to pass. No surprise that none of it has. I think I was most disappointed that my grandmother didn't give me the winning lottery numbers.

51.       Avalon
381 posts
 28 May 2008 Wed 01:07 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

To be perfectly honest, some of my friends got together and bought me an hour with a psychic for my birthday. They know I am a very skeptical person. So here I am with this woman, who claims to be talking to my dead grandmother (I think it is a pretty safe bet that most people my age have a dead grandmother...but OK) and my grandmother, who didn't speak a word of English in her life, preceded to tell this complete stranger about all the wonderful things that will happen to me. By the end of the hour, I was beginning to realize that another hour of my life had been chipped away and wasted.....I was feeling pretty foolish and I am still waiting for all that was told to come to pass. No surprise that none of it has. I think I was most disappointed that my grandmother didn't give me the winning lottery numbers.

she does not want you to become of one of snobs of American modern society,appreciate that!Btw I am happy to see that ghost busters helped)))))))))))))

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