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20.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 Mar 2006 Sun 10:34 pm

Quoting Aenigma:

Well I do agree Boop, but surely here we were not talking about ALL MEN - only resort workers.

I agree, some girls can be blamed but, really, you only have to read some of the translations here to realise that these girls really believe these boys and are taken in by them? They mean seem cheap or easy - but most of these girls believe these boys when they start talking of marriage. English guys (GENERALLY!!!) are not so romantic and demonstrative, so these beautiful Turkish men seem like a dream come true to these girls!

Also, is it not important to stress the point that these resort workers are not typical of all Turkish men? Or, do we ALWAYS have to be politically correct on this site at the expense of truth?



What you say is very true. I am not for one minute suggesting that all men are the same or for that matter all women from the UK. I have not time for political correctness but then that is another story

We have these womens magazines and the tabloids that regularly feature stories about women going to Turkey ( and it is always Turkey!!) who pick a young fella. Most women will be flattered by some attention from a handsome your man, serving you drinks etc. But I am talking about woman who should know better, woman in their 40's, 50's and even 60's going with young men in their 20's.

My point here is that there is enough exposure for woman to be on their guard and they choose not to be and still end up wounded - mostly their pride and their purses!!

21.       Aenigma
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 12 Mar 2006 Sun 10:41 pm

22.       krazegrl
27 posts
 12 Mar 2006 Sun 10:46 pm

And so what if an older 30, 40 or 50 year old woman is taken by a young Turkish resort worker? I would think that at that age, she is self sufficient financially, able to earn her own money and decide if she should spend it on a man that flattered her for a short time? Is it not as much as she is using him then like he uses her?

Food for thought...

23.       Aenigma
0 posts
 12 Mar 2006 Sun 10:49 pm

Quoting krazegrl:

And so what if an older 30, 40 or 50 year old woman is taken by a young Turkish resort worker? I would think that at that age, she is self sufficient financially, able to earn her own money and decide if she should spend it on a man that flattered her for a short time? Is it not as much as she is using him then like he uses her?

Food for thought...



Good food too! I hate ageism!!!!

24.       Boop
785 posts
 12 Mar 2006 Sun 10:53 pm

I believe it is wrong to generalise about anybody - on the grounds of anything.
Whether it be age, sex, colour, race, status etc..
My point is that we are all individuals and should be judged on our own merits.
Experience hopefully comes with age and we all learn eventually not to trust everybody - but in order to gain experience we have to make our own mistakes. You can guide but you cannot live someones life for them.

25.       ramayan
2633 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 12:03 am

Quoting Boop:

I believe it is wrong to generalise about anybody - on the grounds of anything.
Whether it be age, sex, colour, race, status etc..
You can guide but you cannot live someones life for them.


+1 i cant help myself to agree boop but wana add my ideas...he may be a resort man maybe a student maybe a waiter..doesnt he have right to love or cant he love truely??anyway..i wouldnt talk about it...about guiding my mum and dad also wana guide..but comaring with their are its soo different and hard to behave like they did..so i found another way for me and going on that road...its better and sweet..of course their lovely ideas and suggestions are great and they r like a map but im using another vehicle to go...
i prefer bmw

26.       MissHelen
148 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 10:03 am

Quoting Elisa:

Can anyone tell me what the life of an English man, mid twenties, working as a bartender in a London pub would be like?



?

Not I! I thought they were all Australian these days...

H.

27.       yabanci09
56 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 02:01 pm

In my opinion - the initial question was very general and deserved the generalised answer that it was given. And however awful or judgemental it may sound to say that if your a waiter in a resort your probably uneducated etc, the fact is that, the majority of men who work in resorts do it because theres nothing else for them to do - although, there are some who are students, or those working in tourism as a second job to earn extra money, otherwise I cant see any reason why anyone would wish to endure 18 hour shifts, slapping a fake smile on their face as they watch tourists waste money, all for a pitance of a wage - nobody in their right mind would do such a job enless there was no other option. I thought what Erdinç wrote was reasonably accurate, and iam sure when asking 'what its like working as a waiter in tourism', she wasnt expecting anyone to say that it was all fun and games etc. I think the bottom line is - not everyones the same, HOWEVER, the translation section of this website is living proof that there are men out there working in tourism who use tourists to their own advantage,(and you should see the other sites! i.e the english girlfriends of turkish men group!) and if your boyfriend starts asking you for money, a new mobile phone, trainers or whatever, then be careful. Whats the deal with mobile phones anyway? I find it really pathetic and to some extend greedy, although its completely wrong, atleast theres some logic in asking for money if the person is in a bad situation - but when the person has a perfectly good phone in working order, why ask for a new one? - its really beyond logic.

28.       krazegrl
27 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 02:08 pm

Thank you for your support... I initiated the question/thread in an attempt to understand the socio/economics of Turkish people...just as I would about a teachers life...although I have already been told about that...I also have seen much dialogue about the salary a teacher makes, spends, the cost of electricity, internet and telephone, but was curios about the resort wages, distance from home, relationships (in general) with other family members and where they live etc etc etc. Anyone know anything else to answer these questions? Your input is interesting...if it is supported with first hand knowledge

29.       kay05
42 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 02:49 pm

Quoting erdinc:


According his ethical values, there are two kinds of females. One type are the ethical ones and the other type of girls are the unethical ones. With the unethical ones you have fun and with the ethical ones you marry. Of course the girl he will marry must be a virgin, otherwise she is unethical. I guess by now you have understood that all Western girls fall down to the second category.



So what if he meets a Western girl who is a virgin, and he knows she loves her but they haven't slept together or anything? Is she still classed as unethical or easy? My boyfriend says he wants to marry me in the future, he's never asked for money or anything, never wants to leave Turkey. He appears far more decent than a lot of others. Then I read things like this and all the horror stories and I assume he's another rat. He tells me to trust him, although I know in the past of course he's had fun with Western women, and he likely will have more fun in Summer when he works. But come on, anyone can fall in love, someone one day will find a good respectable girl or boy, surely? Are there no exceptions in this stereotype of the tourist worker?

30.       Kimberley
10 posts
 13 Mar 2006 Mon 03:14 pm

in response to the previous post, i would just like to say, that yes of course there are exceptions
to this sterotype. I met my now husband in a tourist resort, he was working for his uncle for the summer and was still at school.
we have now been together for 5 years, married for nearly two, and in that time he has proved to be resonsible, genuine and respectful.
he is a good husband to me and a great dad to our daughter.
Yes the sterotype certainly does exist but there also certainly are exceptions, if if they are rare!

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