Why has not the Turkish parliament given tit for tat and passed a resolution condemning the Iraqi Genocide?

As a result of Bush´s invasion of Iraq, more than one million Iraqis have died, and several millions are displaced persons. The Iraqi death toll and the millions of uprooted Iraqis match the Armenian deaths and deportations. If one is a genocide, so is the other.

It is true that most of the Iraqi deaths have resulted from Iraqis killing one another. But it was Bush´s destruction of the secular Iraqi state that unleashed the sectarian strife.

Moreover, American troops in Iraq have killed more civilians than insurgents. The US military in Iraq has fallen for every bit of disinformation fed to it by Al Qaeda personnel posing as "informants" and by Sunnis setting up Shi´ites and Shi´ites setting up Sunnis. As a result, American bombs and missiles have blown up weddings, funerals, kids playing soccer, and people shopping in bazaars and sleeping in their homes.

Not to be outdone, Bush´s private Waffen SS known as Blackwater Security has taken to gunning Iraqi civilians down in the streets. How do Blackwater and Custer Battles killers escape the "unlawful combatant" designation?

One can only marvel at the insouciance of the US Congress to the current Iraqi Genocide while condemning Turkey for one that happened 90 years ago.

People seldom see the beam in their own eye, only the mote in the eyes of others. Every member of the Bush Regime is busily at work denouncing Iran for causing instability in the Middle East.

Meanwhile, the US has invaded two countries, throwing them into total chaos, while beating the drums for war with Iran and conspiring with Israel to invade Lebanon and to attack Syria.

The indisputable facts are that the US and Israel have attacked four Middle East countries and are determined to attack a fifth. Yet, it is peaceful Iran, at war with no one, that Bush and Israel blame for causing instability in the Middle East.

Not content with its many wars in the Middle East, the Bush Regime is sponsoring wars in Africa and is setting up an African Command. The US government has been bombing and attacking other countries ever since the cold war ended. Instead of peace, the gang in Washington DC chose war.

Other than the Israel Lobby, the greatest supporters of Bush´s wars are Christian evangelicals, specifically the "rapture evangelicals" and the "Christian Zionists."

I remember when Christianity was about saving one´s soul. Today it is about bringing on Armageddon. While the various evangelical Christians preach war in the Middle East, they condemn Islam for being a "warlike religion."

Americans are so full of themselves that they are blind to their extraordinary hypocrisy.

The US government has broken every agreement with Russia by withdrawing from the anti-ballistic missile treaty, pushing NATO to Russia´s borders, conniving to place missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic, and buying governments in former Soviet republics and installing US military bases therein.

When Russian President Putin finally has enough and protests, the US Secretary of State blames Putin for being difficult and restarting the cold war.

Few Americans realize it, but they take the cake.

International polls show that the rest of the world regard the US and Israel as the greatest dangers to world peace. Americans claim that they are fighting wars against terrorism, but it is US and Israeli terrorism that worries everyone else. The rest of the world knows that the wars are about US and Israeli hegemony and that the US and Israel are prepared to engage in whatever acts of terror are necessary to achieve hegemony.

That is the bare fact.

When the US dollar loses its reserve currency status, the US empire will come to an abrupt end. Sooner or later the rest of the world will realize this and, in an act of self-protection, dethrone the dollar.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts10162007.html

I agree with your post, and understand the sentiment completely.  However, I am not sure that it can be classed as "genocide" by any legal definition.  I think there are certainly ethical and legal breaches of International law involved, as well as many serious war crimes.  I have always agreed with Kofi Annan, that this "war" is a breach of the United Nations Charter.  Lets all ask ourselves why nothing has been done about it?  What is the point of having a United Nations?  Maybe it is a nice banner for the US to carry when they carry out their world policing?

The rest of the article is very interesting.  I tend to agree about the biggest threat coming from Israel and the US.  I think it is hard for much of the west to realise they are also victims of propaganda too - it is something they think only happens in more "repressed" countries.  There is certainly a wideheld belief in the west that the biggest threat to the world comes from Islamic countries, yet there is no substantial proof of this, other than scarmongering headlines in western media.  Yet, any problems that have occured in these countries has mostly been as a result of western interference.

Maybe open-minded members will read your post and find it gives them ´food for thought´.  I doubt there will be many.  Unfortunately, both the east and west are fed propaganda on a daily basis - such "fear" of another culture ensures power for both sides over people. 

Today we have better communication than ever before, but that very communication which should help break through those man-made barriers is used to further the causes of the powerful. 

I dont suppose it will ever end.

I agree with you, but the whole point is this,

Of course no one will call it a genocide untill America loses its power.

then Greenland,Burkina faso and others will recognize it  for sure....

Reading "genocide", I thought you were talking about al-Anfal. The invasion of Iraq cannot be classified as genocide, but international laws have probably been broken countless times. And it should never have happened, of course. Have you ever watched Turtles can fly?

It was again America who supplied Saddam with bio weapons to kill the Kurds. You will not see these facts in those movies though. Have you watched the Kurds` gratitude movie for America(in the form of a tv commercial) for invading Iraq? the Kurdish genocide carried out by Saddam+America has nothing to do with what`s going on in Iraq today, and it doesn`t lessen the importance of other crimes.

My comment was mainly directed towards the difference between genocide and war crimes/invasion/whatever we should call it. I don´t think anybody can say that "the coalition" entered Iraq with the purpose of massmurdering civilians. There has been done some horrible things out of ignorance and general carelessness, but it´s not the same thing.

i  agree..

Warcrimes and genocide are completely different things.!! (Though in both cases they kill many but by definition they are completely different)

oh really? why do they (and you) call the armenian deportation a genocide then? there was no attempt of mass murder in this case either.

My Azerbaijan friends talk about Azerbaijcan genocide..providing me with suitable links..blaming Armenians...live still under threat of losing independance((((

I can`t control my anger whenever Karabagh is mentioned. The Azeri genocide is one of the most horrible attrocities carried out just before the 21st century along with the Bosnian and Rwanda genocides, and it makes me sick how all those western countries ignore the crimes of their christian brothers. Even Turkey refuses to acknowledge this horrible genocide.

watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDasHXn_ATE

and ask yourself why didn`t Turkey do anything when the armenian terrorists genocided our brothers.

Well of course they do...then they would be  confronted with their own controversial past. 

no one asked for your opinion teaschip. keep your national bigotry out of this thread.

 Is that so....I didn´t know I needed your permission to respond here.. 

 you do not need the permission,of course but as if u consider yourself a free thinker just learn,learn about other sides and use your mind for thinking.....

 So in other words if I don´t agree with you, I´m considered closed minded.  It doesn´t work that way...ironically enough we are not limited by our freedom of speech or thought where I reside, how about you?

 who told you to agree with me?Pastafarians?_?but before entering the discussion learn many sides opinions and "facts"...words liked by u,...hmmm..and did i said close minded?????no way....but you must think yourself like that if my words brought this thought!!!!

What are you talking about? Again, what makes you think I don´t learn many sides and consider facts before I make an opinion.  I´m still bothered by the fact Chile has moved to Europe/Asia...baed on your geography.. And yes you insinuated if I considered myself a free thinker I would basically think and agree with you...it doesn´t work that way, sorry man. 

 hehe....cnm..I love your way..from now on..u will be my favourite...love at first bite!!!!and Chile..do u know where it is???tebrikler)

 I happen to think you would love to get a taste of my American blood....

National bigotry... hmmm.... that would keep a lot of people of out everywhere. And as she said, she does not need your permission to post here.

I think you are ´slightly´ confused about what ´genocide is´ (and mixing it up with ´war crime´ )  

When this confusion is mixed up with ´NOT knowing your OWN history´, what you are trying to say is  becoming like the soup of the day in ´little chefs´ (no taste at all)

In another thread, i have already given you the numbers..(800.000 to 300.00

as far as the whole armenian issue is concerned, we are not talking about here ´if those things happened.

OF COURSE THEY HAPPENED.

You call it deportation, elimination, moving them out of the war zone etc etc. You can not change the fact that those people got killed..

ha ha

actually, I dont think anybody can be a good match for my country´s empty, finest, home grown nationalists as far as national bigotary is concerned..

stop making meaningless ad hominem arguments, handsom.  Im just asking one simple question and in case you have difficulties in understanding what you read, here is what Im asking; why do those people who call the armenian deportation genocide refuse to call the killings in Iraq genocide?

 he may come with the answer that it was"International Aid and Safety World  Anti Terrorism Policy Action" providing "arguments"....just a guess

 Nasil istersen cnm... ama YUCK...hmmm..i am in a small dilemma,dimly....I am not carnivorous 

Temora

 Our charming , herbivorous, lofty and chilvaric  misogynist, very clever, humourous old hamam attendent from Turkey  

You should really read about the definition of genocide and the definition of war crime.

I think it´s you who is having problems here. On multiple levels... Being rude is not making your ´argument´ stronger, but maybe that´s news for you.

Quoting thehandsom

You should really read about the definition of genocide and the definition of war crime.

suppose I know nothing about them, tell us what makes the armenian deportation a genocide and the iraqi genocide "war crime"

Simple,this is Türkiye,and that is USA.

Unlike Canl´s smart response..I would tell that person who doesn´t know the difference to do some research and while your googeling...try looking up Operation Anfal.

the Kurdish genocide was carried out by Saddam and his ally America but I see no relevance to the issue. The Kurdish genocide does not cancel out or lessen the importance of any other genocides. Besides the number of Iraqi deaths are far beyond that of the Kurds if you`re so interested in such comparisons.

 What do you do for fun, dear Tam

You are always so serious

Come and play "hide and seek"

you think so because you are always so carefree what do you drink, honestly? coffee never makes me as high as you.

 Yep!  Just green tea and coffee (rarely alcohol)

Maybe you should try it?   A good balance between arguing and fun is good for you! 

Hadi...... am still hiding and waiting for find me

right, the midterms are not fun either at all, but I still have one more tomorrow. and too much caffeine makes me like a zombie. anyway, I have to study, but I will find you sometime later

 Ok you are forgiven for being serious

I am sorry but game is over - I was hiding in the deleted posts box and it was very uncomfortable