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50.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Mar 2009 Tue 08:46 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Do I need to catch bod? lol

 

 I think you have a fairly commanding lead!

51.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:11 am

Have you actually read the book "Secret Life of Plants"?

 

Or, are we relying on the wisdom of "most" botanists here?

 

´After I read it, pseuda-science would not be the word I would choose to describe it.

 

I am yet to read another interesting book, such as that one, on plant life written by these scientifically critical botanists.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Working in botany, I have yet to find anyone in the field who agrees with the all the findings in "The Secret Life of Plants", and the evidence and the manner in which it was collected, is very unscientific.

 

It was a very popular book, but most eminent botanists describe it is psuedo-science.

 

As Dr. David Hershey said:-

 

I was not aware there was a video but the experiment you describe is
detailed in the #1 bestselling book of that title by Peter Tompkins and
Christopher Bird. It also contains a lot of other botanical pseudoscience
as does its less successful sequel, Secrets of the Soil. The supposed
beneficial effect of some types of music on plant growth even inspired
Stevie Wonder to release an album of music to grow plants by! Art Galston
wrote a rebuttal to the Secret Life of Plants book titled "The
unscientific method" (1974. Natural History 83(3):18,21,24).

Most of that type of botanical pseudoscientific research was later tried
by actual plant scientists, who could not confirm the results. I do not
believe a lot of it was published because it represented negative results
that would not look too good on the resume of a legitimate scientist. A
1990 Cell article 60:357-364 reported no effect of music on mRNA changes
that could be induced by touching the plant, Arabidopsis.

Pseudoscience is a good topic to add interest to botany classes. A
close-to-pseudoscience theory is hydrotropism, which most college
textbooks say does not exist but precollege biology books say is valid.
See Hershey, D.R. 1992. Is hydrotropism all wet? Science Activities
29(2):20-24.

 

 

52.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 11 Mar 2009 Wed 11:23 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Have you actually read the book "Secret Life of Plants"?

 

Or, are we relying on the wisdom of "most" botanists here?

 

´After I read it, pseuda-science would not be the word I would choose to describe it.

 

I am yet to read another interesting book, such as that one, on plant life written by these scientifically critical botanists.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

 

 

 

 Yes I have read Secret Life of Plants and I stand by my comments. Plants are not sentinent. 

And what is wrong with relying on the wisdom of botanists?    I happen to work with one of the most respected botanists in the UK - so actually YES, I do respect his wisdom on such subjects!



Edited (3/11/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (3/11/2009) by TheAenigma

53.       bod
5999 posts
 11 Mar 2009 Wed 05:01 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Do I need to catch bod? lol

 

Why would you want to.......

Or maybe that should be - why did you want to lol

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