Well maybe this is more of an agnostic approach, but where there is no proof, there is no "belief", it is "fact". 

 no, its just tami trying to cover his lies about that there are no turkish christians. and others pretending they knew nothing about the fate of turkich christians if they uncover their belief

the horrific thing is that those murderers came to the apt pretending that they are interested in christianity. thus following one of the islamic rules -taqiyya- so typical once theres no honesty in religion - then its not divine.

 well, believing without a proof is called a faith so if atheists cant prove anything then it turns into a faith

you better go to your coffee lounge and make me a good tea

 ahahaha

then i must be a jew because im a kypchak

tami, i love your knowledge on turks and other turkic nations and their roots.

Then why did you say that Europe was slaughtering Jews 65 years ago?

Perhaps you should do some more reading about WWII because some members here (most members here actually) lost their grandfathers during WWII. And guess what, they didn´t fall out of the warden´s tower in concentration camps. They died because they were opposing Nazists. People all over Europe would give shelter to Jews risking their own lives. And you just put the whole Europe into one pot

Yes in the middle ages Jews were persecuted as they constituted a serious threat to Christian wielders. They didn´t constitute a religious threat, but monetary one. Most countries were in debt to Jews and instead of paying them off they preferred to kick them out of Europe. Religion was, as always, just an excuse. Mediocrity would never attack Jews for the reason that their noblemen are in debt to them. But once the rumour that Jews eat children and drink their blood spread - everybody was casting stones and burning down Jewish settlements. Was it a good thing? Of course not! But that was middle ages, the times when average lifespan was 40 years, education was almost non-existent and plagues were reducing population by hundreds. People were backward, believed in many stupid things so it was so easy to tell them that Jews are responsible for everything.

 +1

well, that was then. do you think people arent backward today, when they put all the blame and curse jews without a single thought given to? i think nothing has significantly changed at least in one particular part of the world.

I´m not actually married to a Turk but am in a happy relationship with one, so I can let you know from my perspective. I think the only reason why this is working out between us is that neither one of us is very religious - I´m raised Catholic but currently agnostic and he´s Muslim of course. If we both were very religious I think we might have some problems. We do talk about religion, but we have a mutual respect for each other´s beliefs (well, we try lol) and an agreement that we´re not going to try to "convert" the other. The topic comes up when we discuss having children in the future and what religion they will be brought in - and again, since I´m not religious, it´s not a major issue for me but I would like them to be able to choose for themselves. The one thing that is sort of problematic is that if we do get married, we won´t be able to have a religious ceremony, I don´t think. And it´s also a pity he doesn´t eat pork , I make a killer pork tenderloin lol.

just like the whole south africa, asia and the americas got christianized under the sword of "jesus".

thanks for that Melek

.... i was just thinking last night....

i do remember though that Ephesus is part of Turkey right? isn´t Ephesus a big part of the whole Christian religion movement, hence the book of the Bible Ephesians?

Isn´t the book of Ephesians about Christ, being the head of the church? And the books emphasis is place squarely on Christ, and who the people are in Him. It also teaches how parents´ primary goal  is to help their children establish a firm foundation for life by nurturing  a self-concept and self-esteem rooted in the reality of who we are in the Lord.

(makes me wonder why today in present, family ties, and parental approval is so important among Turkish people, ... just making an assumption... )

Maybe in history, there are also Turks who are Christians... in Ephesus.... but i just don´t know about today... and why that part of the country has also changed into people who believe in Islam now...

can someone enlighten me on this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Karaites

Crimean Karaites deny Israelite origins and consider themselves to be descendants of the Khazars.^[1] Virtually all scholars of Khazar history, however, agree that the Judaism of the Khazars was Rabbinical in nature.

like what the Poles did to them in the ww2? but of course it`s the best for Europeans to blame only Nazis (not even Germany)

Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler, future Pope Benedict in the Center brown suit Nazi

This arshole was the pope just a few years ago!!!