you sound just like a bigoted American nationalist who can`t even see the barbaric crime the Americans have been carrying out in Iraq, so I don`t think it`s worth to argue with you.

 And I saw how wonderful the middle east was to their friendly neighbor Iraq when Saddam was killing his own people......where were you guys then? 

when Saddam and his beloved ally America was killing the Kurds in Halepje, Turkey was the only country who accepted 500,000 of Kurds into the country from Iraq. where were you Americans(who are the great allies of Kurds now) back then?

 You mean the same Kurds you have been hunting down in the mountains for years now....I have a difficult time believing that.

why don`t you join your beloved terrorists, if you love them so much?

For the record, tami, I am not American.  And, I have lived in three different countries and traveled extensively in the Middle East, albeit in no war torn areas, except for Israel and Palestine. I do not view Turkey as the Middle East, nor do I view it as Europe.  Turkey is neither.  It is a truly unique country. 

America has never been allies with Sadam Hussain.  America is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn´t.  America left Saddam alone for a while because the Iraqis wanted them to, but they were never allies with that man. America is allies, however, with Turkey and the American government has no problem with Kurds, but like many other countries, they do have a problem with the Kurds who are trying to kill Turks in order to claim southeast Turkey as its own land and own country basically.  Do you have a problem with the PKK tami? 

How many Middle Eastern countries have asked America to help resolve the situation in the Middle East and bring peace to that region?  Queen Rania of Jordan went to America personally to ask them to help.  America is truly damned if it does and damned if it doesn´t.  Tami, you ask where was America when Saddam was killing the Kurdish people of Iraq?  I think you should be asking, why was Saddam killing the Kurdish people of Iraq?  You make America out to be the bad guy in that situation.  You say Turkey is the good guy for accepting all those Kurdish refugees into Turkey.  How does Turkey treat those Kurds now?  What opinion do the Turkish people have now of those same Kurdish refugees? I´ve seen discrimination of Kurds in Turkey, and I have only been there twice!

Tami, you sound like a racist Turkish nationalist who is willing to believe whatever he hears, unless he disagrees with it.

I`m telling it once again, I`m not going to argue with a brainwashed bigot like you. have fun.

Once again, good comeback tami.  Really makes you the better man doesn´t it?

Do you even know how to argue with me? Why do you call it an argument?  Why can´t it just be a discussion?  Prove me wrong. 

 Thats the point,there is nothing to be proved here

You are talking about well known history,and recent one too and argue about

Then there is no point in arguing it.

Even a nationalist American wont deny it.

Here for some information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war

And as you see its from wiki then it wasnt a deep hidden secret or something!

You said you lived in the Middle East for a while,but seems to me you didnt understand the situation there.

Queen Rania of Jordan went to America personally to ask them to help for what ?

What are the flamable problems that we have in the Middle East ?

Palestine and Ýraq

Ýsnt it obvious why Queen Rania asked US for help ?

US taking over Ýraq....still that makes Ýraq the bad one ?!!!

As you see there is nothing to argue about here

 So,US came and decided to kill the rest of them ?!

Teas,come on,what are you defending now ?!!

Yesterday vacation is over guys,

Let´s continue our debats with mutual respect,without any personal judgments,comments,accusations

Rule 9,10