TheBaby

 Will TheBaby be joining TC soon?

I agree with you - people refuse to look at both (or more than 2) sides of the story. It´s not all black or white. The politicians are playing their games and killing people in the meantime, and us peanuts, are on the bottom arguing about who has the bigger body count (as if any number of deaths were acceptable!) and who´s right or wrong, and the truth is we can´t do shit about it. We can get angry and offend each other, which only feeds that politicians´ games. We are a mass to be manipulated by our governments and I don´t care how intelligent you are, what your perception is, but it´s just part of the bigger picture, and it can never be a complete picture at that as we don´t have access to all the information and we´re influenced by media and other, not necessarily, accurate sources of information. I think we´re all right and wrong in some aspects. I have been against the war from the start based on what my perception of it is, but despite that I´m allowing the possibility that there might have been intelligence and information I wouldn´t have access to that would have made the decision to go to war more understandable.

And TheAenigma, since you want to know who was against the war. Why don´t you google anti-Iraq war protests (over 260 thousand hits) or Americans against war in Iraq (over 400 thousand hits).  

(1) Just out of interest, name ONE of the "rights" for invading Iraq.  I am not asking much eh?

(2) 260 thousand???? 400 thousand???  Out of YOUR population?  Disgusting!

He´s more into milk for now, besides, I believe Mr Daydreamer might have some objections

 You generalize TheAenigma.  That´s Theproblem! Generalization! Bush started the war after he was elected.  I cannot explain why the American people elected him AGAIN, but he started the war in Iraq after he was elected.  He started it right after 9/11.  You better believe the American people thought something should be done.  Americans are not just going to sit on their ass and do nothing, and I don´t blame them. So he didn´t exactly do the right thing, but troops were sent to Afganistan too, and don´t tell me Afganistan didn´t ask for it.

So the power of the US is on a downward slide. Fine. Then somebody else better pick up the slack, and we all know who it won´t be and who it will be.  The UK is 2nd in command, and if America isn´t the most powerful country in the world, Britian will be.  There is a reason for that. Democracy, freedom of speech, a secular government, freedom of speech, and democracy. Oh, and did I mention freedom of speech and secular government? No many countries have both, even if they claim they do.

Teaschip, thanks for the support.  It is nice to chat with someone else who can finally see both sides.

1) I don´t know of any "rights" for invading Iraq, like I made clear in several posts of mine I have been against the war in Iraq from the beginning. What I was saying is that my opinion is based on my perception and it may not be based on compelte information. And so is your, you don´t have access to intelligence and the same information that your Prime Minister would, so I don´t think you´re as informed about it as you´d like to think you are.

2) The number refers to the number of "hits" not people. It would indeed be disgusting if it was just people. If you look at polls, the opinions have been split more or less down the middle, so that brings the numbers up to 150 million of people who don´t agree with the decision to go to war. I´m not going to ask you how many people are against the war in YOUR population, I don´t care and I don´t think it matters. I think everybody should be against killing other people and in any case your opinon or mine does not matter to the person who´s going to send the troops over.

Melek74, I agree.  That is exactly what I mean by both sides of the story. 

TheAenigma, did you smile on 9/11 when the second plane hit the WTC and everyone with a brain realized this was no accident?  Some people did. Some people felt that Americans deserved it.  Do you?

 Of course I didn´t smile...but please tell me what 9/11 has to do with the invasion of Iraq?

I am interested

 If you don´t know of any right reason to invade Iraq, what are you defending?  Of course we are given the same information as you...that there were "weapons of mass distruction" of which they had no evidence, and which has since been proved completely false.  I don´t see your point.  With regard to Blair, he felt "obliged" to join the US invasion, despite very strong opposition from his own cabinet, government and the public...and now realises it was his downfall.

Strange - these are the same people who voted Bush back into power with a majority at the previous election to this

Actually OUR opinion does matter - it is what democracy is all about or should I say SUPPOSED TO BE about.