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Israel Is Killing in Gazza!!!!!
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310.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:49 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 I´ve said all I need to say here.

 

 Good for you!

311.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 03:19 am

 People around the world take part in demonstrations protesting against the Israeli strikes in Gaza

 

Turkish demonstrators chant slogans during an anti-Israeli protest in Istanbul

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/4014460/People-around-the-world-take-part-in-demonstrations-protesting-against-the-Israeli-strikes-in-Gaza.html?image=8

 

Turkish demonstrators chant slogans during an anti-Israeli protest in Istanbul

312.       lessluv
1052 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 05:08 am

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=va1UgGkXINw

 

I came across this as I was researching this topic...the video itself is of the demonstration but it´s the comments that follow that are hard to digest there is soo much hatred on both sides....

313.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 05:36 am

A woman holds up the Koran as she takes part in an anti-Israeli protest in Sanaa, Yemen

314.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 01:02 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

A woman holds up the Koran as she takes part in an anti-Israeli protest in Sanaa, Yemen

 

 ????

No comment Ros?

315.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 01:32 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 ????

No comment Ros?

 

 Sometimes less is more .

 

I think Ros is simply following on from her previous post.  The images are from the same article.

316.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 01:45 pm

 

Again Robert Fisk:

 

..That is why Gaza exists: because the Palestinians who lived in Ashkelon and the fields around it  Askalaan in Arabic  were dispossessed from their lands in 1948 when Israel was created and ended up on the beaches of Gaza. ... 80 per cent of whose families once lived in what is now Israel. This, historically, is the real story: most of the people of Gaza don´t come from Gaza.

 

But watching the news shows, you´d think that history began yesterday, that a bunch of bearded anti-Semitic Islamist lunatics suddenly popped up in the slums of Gaza ´a rubbish dump of destitute people of no origin´ and began firing missiles into peace-loving, democratic Israel, only to meet with the righteous vengeance of the Israeli air force. The fact that the five sisters killed in Jabalya camp had grandparents who came from the very land whose more recent owners have now bombed them to death simply does not appear in the story.

 

.. hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who lost their homes to Israel, who fled or were driven out through fear or Israeli ethnic cleansing 60 years ago, when tidal waves of refugees had washed over Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War and when a bunch of Arabs kicked out of their property didn´t worry the world.

 

Well, the world should worry now. Crammed into the most overpopulated few square miles in the whole world are a dispossessed peop le who have been living in refuse and sewage and, for the past six months, in hunger and darkness, and who have been sanctioned by us, the West. Gaza was always an insurrectionary place. It took two years for Ariel Sharon´s bloody "pacification", starting in 1971, to be completed, and Gaza is not going to be tamed now.

 

..."It´s the most terrifying place I´ve ever been in," Said once said of Gaza. "It´s a horrifyingly sad place because of the desperation and misery of the way people live. I was unprepared for camps that are much worse than anything I saw in South Africa."

 

..The simple fact is that Palestinian deaths matter far less than Israeli deaths. True, we know that 180 of the dead were Hamas members. But what of the rest? If the UN´s conservative figure of 57 civilian fatalities is correct, the death toll is still a disgrace.

 

To find both the US and Britain failing to condemn the Israeli onslaught while blaming Hamas is not surprising. US Middle East policy and Israeli policy are now indistinguishable and Gordon Brown is following the same dog-like devotion to the Bush administration as his predecessor.

 

..Indeed, within a few months, we´ll be hearing that Israel and Hamas have been having "secret talks"  just as we once did about Israel and the even more corrupt PLO. But by then, the dead will be long buried and we will be facing the next crisis since the last crisis.

 

 

In full:

http://www.independent.co.uk/..-is-the-most-tragic-irony-1216228.html

 

And the picture of 5 sisters who got killed yesterday

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00107/five-sisters_107521t.jpg

 

 

317.       christine
443 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 01:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Why? Don´t you think it´s good to find out how people really feel?  The longer this thread stays open, the more we discover about people here...

 

 Yes it is good to talk and discover new things about people, but scarcasim, insults and making jokes about another terrible thing that is happening in our world if not the right way to go about this. I am sure the large marjority of people in this world  would love to see world peace, but we know this will never happen because of people´s greed and some people wanted to control others .

318.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 02:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Again Robert Fisk:

 

..That is why Gaza exists: because the Palestinians who lived in Ashkelon and the fields around it  Askalaan in Arabic  were dispossessed from their lands in 1948 when Israel was created and ended up on the beaches of Gaza. ... 80 per cent of whose families once lived in what is now Israel. This, historically, is the real story: most of the people of Gaza don´t come from Gaza.

 

But watching the news shows, you´d think that history began yesterday, that a bunch of bearded anti-Semitic Islamist lunatics suddenly popped up in the slums of Gaza ´a rubbish dump of destitute people of no origin´ and began firing missiles into peace-loving, democratic Israel, only to meet with the righteous vengeance of the Israeli air force. The fact that the five sisters killed in Jabalya camp had grandparents who came from the very land whose more recent owners have now bombed them to death simply does not appear in the story.

 

.. hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who lost their homes to Israel, who fled or were driven out through fear or Israeli ethnic cleansing 60 years ago, when tidal waves of refugees had washed over Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War and when a bunch of Arabs kicked out of their property didn´t worry the world.

 

Well, the world should worry now. Crammed into the most overpopulated few square miles in the whole world are a dispossessed peop le who have been living in refuse and sewage and, for the past six months, in hunger and darkness, and who have been sanctioned by us, the West. Gaza was always an insurrectionary place. It took two years for Ariel Sharon´s bloody "pacification", starting in 1971, to be completed, and Gaza is not going to be tamed now.

 

..."It´s the most terrifying place I´ve ever been in," Said once said of Gaza. "It´s a horrifyingly sad place because of the desperation and misery of the way people live. I was unprepared for camps that are much worse than anything I saw in South Africa."

 

..The simple fact is that Palestinian deaths matter far less than Israeli deaths. True, we know that 180 of the dead were Hamas members. But what of the rest? If the UN´s conservative figure of 57 civilian fatalities is correct, the death toll is still a disgrace.

 

To find both the US and Britain failing to condemn the Israeli onslaught while blaming Hamas is not surprising. US Middle East policy and Israeli policy are now indistinguishable and Gordon Brown is following the same dog-like devotion to the Bush administration as his predecessor.

 

..Indeed, within a few months, we´ll be hearing that Israel and Hamas have been having "secret talks"  just as we once did about Israel and the even more corrupt PLO. But by then, the dead will be long buried and we will be facing the next crisis since the last crisis.

 

 

In full:

http://www.independent.co.uk/..-is-the-most-tragic-irony-1216228.html

 

And the picture of 5 sisters who got killed yesterday

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00107/five-sisters_107521t.jpg

 

 Good article.  Shame the Independent is not as widely read as the Daily Fascist papers...

319.       si++
3785 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 02:39 pm

Dear friends,

As we watch the Gaza bloodshed with horror, appalled at how the crisis is spiraling further out of control, one thing is clear -- this violence will only lead to further civilian suffering and an escalation of the conflict.

There must be another way. Over 280 are dead so far in the Gaza Strip and hundreds more injured -- rockets are striking Ashdod deep inside Israel for the very first time, and the sides are mobilising for invasion. A global outcry has begun, but it´ll take more than words -- the immediate violence won´t end, nor will wider peace be secured, without firm action from the international community.

Today, we´re launching an emergency campaign which will be delivered to the UN Security Council and key world powers, urging them to act to ensure an immediate ceasefire and address the growing humanitarian crisis -- only with robust international oversight and action can civilians on all sides be protected and real steps be taken toward a wider peace. Follow this link now to sign the emergency petition and send it to everyone you know:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_time_for_peace/50.php

After Gaza´s bloodiest day in recent memory and eight or more years of ineffective US and global diplomacy, we need to get world leaders to do more than issue statements if they´re to ensure a lasting ceasefire. Through the UN Security Council and other international bodies, the world can provide the help and pressure needed to stop the violence and change the situation on the ground in Gaza -- preventing the rockets and incursions, re-opening crossing-points under international oversight so that instead of weapon-smuggling, the 1.5 million ordinary people of Gaza can get the fuel, food and medicines they so desperately need.

All sides to the conflict will continue to act as they have in the past if they believe that the world will stand by and allow them to do so. We mobilised for a ceasefire in 2006´s Israel-Lebanon war and succeeded, but this time the international community must not delay -- let´s raise a truly worldwide outcry. 2009 is a year that things can be different. As we face this crisis, and the possibilities of a new year, it´s time for us everywhere to work together to stop this violence.

With hope and determination,

the Avaaz team

 

source: quoted from facebook

 

320.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 03:06 pm

This is the question, unsolved world dilemma :


“The Clash of Civilizations and the Remarking of World Order , By Samuel  P.Huntington (1996) -  I recommend you to read this book -.


Or


“The Clash of Culltures and the Remarking of World Order”.


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