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the killing continues, GAZA
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 02:02 am |
I´m only going to comment on what I witness myself. In school, 50% of our children are Muslim, from India, Pakistan, Kenya, Iraq, Iran, Croatia and Serbia. We often have fundraising activities for charity and we never have trouble with lack of donations from Muslim families. In fact quite a few parents donate more than is asked for on non uniform days. They also give more often than the parents of the white indigenous children at our school. The sad thing I find about that is that those children don´t get the chance to experience what it´s like to give and be part of something. The sense of community working together is being eroded in some sectors of society in the UK.
The local muslim community also gave gifts to the childrens ward at the local hospital when it was Eid. They gave to all the children and in fact it was a logistical nightmare because the organisers had gone to the trouble of finding out the ages and gender of the children in order to match gifts as best they could. This meant a lot of last minute shopping and they also bought extra for any children that had been admitted to the hospital on the day.
Personally, the charities that I give to regularly aren´t determined by my faith entirely, but by my personal life and family experiences.
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 02:11 am |
Yeap I do, it means that they do not care what happens to non-Muslims - unlike people in secular countries who send help to those who need it, not only those who have the same lifestyle.
It´s a missed analogy - you don´t know all the Muslims and I´m sure they are those who you´d hate to meet. It´s a group of people sharing one belief, not blood. Plus, in a family you do not offer bribes so that other people joined in
Please save the crocodile tears. I did NOT say "they" do not care what happens to non-muslims.
The analogy was missed by you...but it still stands.
Groups tend to help other members of the group. This is the case with any group that identifies itself as a group. The criteria for membership to the group differs from group to group.
Actually bribes in families are common....if you are a nice girl/boy you can have a new car...and so on.
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 10:12 am |
Groups tend to help other members of the group. This is the case with any group that identifies itself as a group. The criteria for membership to the group differs from group to group.
Actually bribes in families are common....if you are a nice girl/boy you can have a new car...and so on.
We are not talking about helping your family out with a little money here! You are playing this down. We are talking about the fact that you are not allowed to assist the poor and needy ..and sometimes dying, if they are not muslim. If you do (like Peacetrain) then you are going against the Quran. Your prayers and money should be given to muslims only, unless there is a chance that by giving money or help, you may convert them to Islam.
Sorry but a your example about getting your son/daughter a new car does not really compare with the tsunami victims quoted in IslamOnline, where it is more a case of "if you convert to my religion you can have some food/shelter" if not, sorry but we won´t help.
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 10:19 am |
The local muslim community also gave gifts to the childrens ward at the local hospital when it was Eid. They gave to all the children and in fact it was a logistical nightmare because the organisers had gone to the trouble of finding out the ages and gender of the children in order to match gifts as best they could. This meant a lot of last minute shopping and they also bought extra for any children that had been admitted to the hospital on the day.
Personally, the charities that I give to regularly aren´t determined by my faith entirely, but by my personal life and family experiences.
Great - what a wonderful person you are!
But you, and the local muslim community are going against the Quran in doing so...
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 11:11 am |
But you, and the local muslim community are going against the Quran in doing so...
You can say what you like and stamp your feet as much as you wish Aenigma. You aren´t my judge and your rants about Islam and Muslims are worthless.
Go and stir your pasta, it´s sticking to the pan again
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 11:21 am |
If you do (like Peacetrain) then you are going against the Quran.
Is this the whole point of your rants? Wait a minute . . .
I didn´t fall into the trap you think you laid. I needn´t have told you anything at all about what I do but I kinda like to wind you up. You get so hot under the collar and begin preaching from Qur´an. You´ll be advocating Sheriah in the UK next.
p.s. If you need more information on becoming a New Muslim I have a great selection of websites you can visit and ask all the questions you want.
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[where do I begin . . .]
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 11:55 am |
the more you dig the more dirt you find despite all the efforts made by people like alameda to wrap islam in beautiful colours to sell it to ignorants
Yeap I do, it means that they do not care what happens to non-Muslims - unlike people in secular countries who send help to those who need it, not only those who have the same lifestyle.
It´s a missed analogy - you don´t know all the Muslims and I´m sure they are those who you´d hate to meet. It´s a group of people sharing one belief, not blood. Plus, in a family you do not offer bribes so that other people joined in
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 12:33 pm |
Is this the whole point of your rants? Wait a minute . . .
I didn´t fall into the trap you think you laid. I needn´t have told you anything at all about what I do but I kinda like to wind you up. You get so hot under the collar and begin preaching from Qur´an. You´ll be advocating Sheriah in the UK next.
p.s. If you need more information on becoming a New Muslim I have a great selection of websites you can visit and ask all the questions you want.
Hot under the collar? I am laughing here You love to preach what a great religion you have but seems that even you have to bend the rules sometimes eh?
Sheriah in the UK? Again, you should listen to your UK muslim peers - it is their ultimate goal. I wonder if you chose the right religion
p.s. If you need more information on becoming a New Muslim I have a great selection of websites you can visit and ask all the questions you want.
Seems I know more about your religion than you sweetie - that is why I wont be joining you thanks for th invitation though (I know how you are desparate to save my soul )
You can say what you like and stamp your feet as much as you wish Aenigma. You aren´t my judge and your rants about Islam and Muslims are worthless.
Go and stir your pasta, it´s sticking to the pan again
I think the only foot stamping is coming from you
I am not your judge, but if you declare "I am a muslim" I wonder why you then declare that you bend your religion´s rules? Why should I be upset - it is very entertaining for us!
At least Alameda defends her religion - you just want to be all things to everyone!
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 12:42 pm |
Seems I know more about your religion than you sweetie -
sweetie . . . hmmm oft used here through gritted teeth .
As for my preaching. I´ve never done any preaching about my faith, not here, not anywhere. People can do and think what they like about religion and faith, it´s a personal thing.
Obviously my invitation to you was tongue in cheek.
I think we´ve exhausted this for today.
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 12:46 pm |
I´m only going to comment on what I witness myself. In school, 50% of our children are Muslim, from India, Pakistan, Kenya, Iraq, Iran, Croatia and Serbia.
Yep, that just about sums the UK up! Wow! I wonder how Turkish nationalists would cope with such a mix in their schools!
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08 Mar 2009 Sun 12:47 pm |
Obviously my invitation to you was tongue in cheek.
I think we´ve exhausted this for today.
Awwwwwww ok sweetie - had enough? Gone to read the Quran?
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