Femme, I think she meant prof Maciej Giertych, the father of Roman The one who argued that the legend of The Dragon from Wawel was a proof for creationism

Alameda, yeah, that could be an explanation, especially that Islam originated in quite a warm climate

 gosh, of course, i know the famous clan of highly intelligent people.

im having fun with cafe´s post esp. when she quoted giertych so bravely

i still wonder how did he become a professor.

Well, it´s not only for that reason. You must realize that all of Turkey is not warm all the time. There are large areas that get quite cold.

For the Ottomans, I think it´s more accurate to attribute it to the Islamic religion. Muslims take a complete body cleansing (also called ghusl) on a regular schedule.

 people in anatolia region always bathed before they were called turks. its not tribes from central asia brought bath to turkey but on the contrary they learnt it there.

the same with arabs, they knew nothing about bath until they conquested (invaded, occupied) byzantine lands where they felt a touch of civilization.

 Did the Borats learn too, femme? 

  yes, they too learnt (centuries later) when they were caught by russians and forced into bania after tasting vodka

 Thank you for that informative and enlightening cultural exchange.  I now know everything about the Borats.  I watched that movie and now I am going to write a book.

 dont hesitate asking me any question, im here to help you any time to promote my glorious country. borats rule! every single civilization started up in my country.

 Boratistan.....the craddle of civilization! 

 absolutely correct !

i hereby nominate you, bed amerikan, a professor of history!

 blah blah blah, alameda.

yeah, i can imagine caravan robbers being so clean and bathing everyday in what? in sand?