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50.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:46 pm

It still doesn´t change the fact that your posts in the politcs section are often biased and are intended to annoy. Try a more mellow approach, and you will see that the discussion will be on a more intellectual level. You call people names, too by the way. I have responded to your posts intellectually in the past, and have resorted to name calling once name calling was imposed on me & others by you.

 

Regarding my misconception that you do not contribute to the language forum, I stand corrected. My bad. But, it still doesn´t change the fact that you like to stir shit up in the politics section on purpose. Be impartial, and you will see how impartial others can be.

 

More important though, try to be honest.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

As I said, I will come back to this and answer..

But boy, boy, boy..

Look at yourself.. Look at how angry you are, how pathetic you look..

Again, before answering, I will say the same thing..

Have you ever answering any of MY POSTS without calling names?

Have you?

And anybody who is ACCUSING ME being in this slang match, how can you forget that fact?

 

 

 

51.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:48 pm

 Then why did you generalize with the tourist slogan in the first place sweetie-pie?

Quoting Trudy

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Any other generalizations that you would like to impose on the rest of Turks based on my post?

 

 Nah, the opposite maybe.

 

 

52.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:51 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

 Then why did you generalize with the tourist slogan in the first place sweetie-pie?

 

 

 

 From you I consider that as an insult!

 

53.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:56 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

It still doesn´t change the fact that your posts in the politcs section are often biased and are intended to annoy. Try a more mellow approach, and you will see that the discussion will be on a more intellectual level. You call people names, too by the way. I have responded to your posts intellectually in the past, and have resorted to name calling once name calling was imposed on me & others by you.

 

Regarding my misconception that you do not contribute to the language forum, I stand corrected. My bad. But, it still doesn´t change the fact that you like to stir shit up in the politics section on purpose. Be impartial, and you will see how impartial others can be.

 

More important though, try to be honest.

 

 

 

I am not trying to annoy anybody at all..

I have some ideas..and I am saying HERE THEY ARE..

If you can come as an opposition, you are welcome..

But..

Look at it..Look at yourself..Look at this thread..Look how you started name calling without almost writing anything about the topic at all..

YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT..

And the topic was an incident it happened in the country where you are from...

It happened to the childeren of that country..

If you dont give a shit to those childeren just dont give a shit..

I WILL ALWAYS GIVE.

 

 

 

54.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:05 pm

 What do you mean I didn´t write anything about the topic?

 

You can read, can´t you? How else can I write about the topic than I already have?

 

And, instead of telling others to look at themselves, you should take a look at yourself as well.

 

And, please do keep posting. I will keep replying in accordance. I think you are clever enough to figure out by now that I do give a shit. It is your biased and insincere manner that I have a problem with. You are not fooling anyone with sentimental words, such as "it is happening to children in the country you happen to be from..." either.

 

It is not the topic of your posts, it is your superficial pretensions and tone.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I am not trying to annoy anybody at all..

I have some ideas..and I am saying HERE THEY ARE..

If you can come as an opposition, you are welcome..

But..

Look at it..Look at yourself..Look at this thread..Look how you started name calling without almost writing anything about the topic at all..

YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT..

And the topic was an incident it happened in the country where you are from...

It happened to the childeren of that country..

If you dont give a shit to those childeren just dont give a shit..

I WILL ALWAYS GIVE.

 

 

 

 

 

55.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:06 pm

 How about answering the question before getting offended for being called a sweetie-pie. Did I get offended when you generalized the rest of Turks based on my post? You took the liberty of imposing that generalization on Turks based on what I wrote. Did you not?

 

One Turk posts something with crudity, and Trudy, a sweetie-pie, does not miss the opportunity to crack something in general about Turks with her tourist slogan. Why resort to bashing on Turks anyway, sweetie-pie? I am sure you have been to Turkey. And if you have, I am sure you must have noticed that Turks are quite friendly toward tourists.

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 From you I consider that as an insult!

 

 

 



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56.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:23 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

 What do you mean I didn´t write anything about the topic?

 

You can read, can´t you? How else can I write about the topic than I already have?

 

And, instead of telling others to look at themselves, you should take a look at yourself as well.

 

And, please do keep posting. I will keep replying in accordance. I think you are clever enough to figure out by now that I do give a shit. It is your biased and insincere manner that I have a problem with. You are not fooling anyone with sentimental words, such as "it is happening to children in the country you happen to be from..." either.

 

It is not the topic of your posts, it is your superficial pretensions and tone.

 

 

 

well.

Look again..

You are not talking about the topic..You are talking about ME here..

What did you write?

first you complained that the link did not work

then you complained that ´was it really the case?´

when I posted the links you started saying that ´were you over there? seen it?´

phew!!

The rest you posted is just about me..

IS IT NOT?

So you do not have opinion on the matter..you did not know it..

Why dont you just simply say that

I AM SORRY. I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY I HAPPENED TO BE FROM..

Why saying that is so difficult for you?

And one more thing:

Same thing happened last year, and also before that..

why did it happen this year?

BECAUSE OF YOU DID NOT KNOW IT A YEAR AGO.

If you had know and HAD RAISED your voice, it would not happened this year..

 

 

 

57.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:33 pm

Well, it i strue that the link in your orignal post didn´t work. Is it not? What am I supposed to say when I can´t read the article you were referring to? Then, I questioned the validity of the journalism when it comes to cops looking for traces of stones in people´s hands. Is that not a reasonable assumption? Can you see the mark that stones leave in your hands when you throw them? You replied by suggesting that because it was reflected in the news as such, it must be true. The cops must have been dumb enough to be looking for stone traces. Peactrain challenged that suggestion as well, but you did not care to respond as to how you proved that was really the case. The rest of name calling started after you called us fascists and racists brainwashed in rhetoric. It is always the same story line in your posts. Your so-called Turkishness versus the so-called Turkishness of others. What the hell do you mean man? What Turkishness? What rhetoric? What Turkish nationalism? Do you really think that most Turks are like that? Yes, there are nationalistic idiots, racist bastards, and oppressive assholes in Turkey, just as there are the equivalent counterparts in other countries. Are you suggesting that all this crap happens because people like me do not raise our voices against injustice? You have no idea how many times I have actually raised or tried to raise my voice against injustice - whether in Turkey or somewhere else - by atteding protests. I have had my share of pepper spray. I did it at the riskof being beaten by the cops as well. Should we assume you are a hero for writing about it, and the rest of us are indifferent to these issues because we don´t post them in a biased manner like you do? 

58.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:50 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Well, it i strue that the link in your orignal post didn´t work. Is it not? What am I supposed to say when I can´t read the article you were referring to? Then, I questioned the validity of the journalism when it comes to cops looking for traces of stones in people´s hands. Is that not a reasonable assumption? Can you see the mark that stones leave in your hands when you throw them? You replied by suggesting that because it was reflected in the news as such, it must be true. The cops must have been dumb enough to be looking for stone traces. Peactrain challenged that suggestion as well, but you did not care to respond as to how you proved that was really the case. The rest of name calling started after you called us fascists and racists brainwashed in rhetoric. It is always the same story line in your posts. Your so-called Turkishness versus the so-called Turkishness of others. What the hell do you mean man? What Turkishness? What rhetoric? What Turkish nationalism? Do you really think that most Turks are like that? Yes, there are nationalistic idiots, racist bastards, and oppressive assholes in Turkey, just as there are the equivalent counterparts in other countries. Are you suggesting that all this crap happens because people like me do not raise our voices against injustice? You have no idea how many times I have actually raised or tried to raise my voice against injustice - whether in Turkey or somewhere else - by atteding protests. I have had my share of pepper spray. I did it at the riskof being beaten by the cops as well. Should we assume you are a hero for writing about it, and the rest of us are indifferent to these issues because we don´t post them in a biased manner like you do? 

 

Allah allah

are we reading the different things here?

I posted something and then with the links I proved IT HAPPENED?

DID I NOT? and IT HAPPENED..

Why is it that difficult for you to accept that?

Instead of joining me and approving how horrible it is, you are going completely off topic and trying to bark at me..

Go and check everything from the beginning..

59.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 11:30 pm

 

Quote:

Hey again clown... I guess I have to spend the rest of my life writing replies to your posts.

 

The only reason why you got my life story is because you made a statement about how you think you have lived in the West longer and, therefore, know more than me or others, who care to reply to your dumb posts. Had you not been irrelevant enough to make that statement in the first place, I would not have to share my story with you. As usual, it is impossible to get anything through that thick head of yours unless we have a sledge-hammer in hand.


 

 

Well. Obviously you dont understand what you read.. Or you do not read carefully what is written..

You were trying to lecture me doltishly about how it is done in the west and I simply said to you "I have been living in the west more than you have been I think" (bear the last bit..´it says ´I think´ lol ) . 

Oh my my..lol lol

How was I supposed to guess that you were waiting for the right moment to write your non ignoramus life story ´in the west´ in a length which would make  Jane Austin jealous!!

How was I supposed think your craving would make a newly wedded virgin bride´s desire for the first copulation night a minuscule craving..

If I knew before, I would post something so that you could write it..

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What I find amazing about you as a prime-degree-board-clown is that you almost exclusively post in the politics section, and your manner of posting is often deliberately biased. You present issues with charged titles, and biased words so that you can get a rise out of people. You present issues as if such issues exist only in Turkey, and nowhere else. When people bring similar issues in other countries, and highligh that injustice or oppression is not something unique to Turkey, you accuse them of being brainwashed in rhetorics. They are immediately labelled as individualls who are incapable of acknowledging the realities of their own country. And you do get replies from others who happen to find your posts to be biased and outright idiotic. I know how you hate the way your stupidity is exposed, when people show how your arguments do not really hold water much of the time. If anyone dares to reply to you in an intellectual manner, point at the gaps in your logic and demonstrate that you may have to rethink some of the things you say, you turn bitter. When such individuals present their ideas about the matter and disagree with you, your usual tactic is to call them fascists, racists, or nationalists. Somehow, when people disagree with your dumb ass, they immediately fall into the category of those, who are ignorant of the realities of Turkey and the rest of the world. As a result, these individuals also call you out for the true moron that you are. When this happens, you turn ape-shit accusing people of not being able to reply to your posts with ideas

 

 

What is biased?

Look pumpkin head..Sweet pumpkin head..

I am posting something there..

DO YOU EVER CHALLANGE the topic?..CAN YOU EVER challenge the topics?.

Show me a post out of hundreds, which was not TRUE?

When did I say anything such as those issues exists ONLY in Turkey? eh?

You are a fibber my friend..Because you do NOT know what is what, or you have NEVER heard of the topics I am posting, you believe that everybody would be carrying a bum instead of a head..

Tell me one incident that you brought up here as a peice of news which was true.. 

Tell me?   

I never call anybody as fascist unless the person  deserves it..

I can prove everything I say here..Even I can prove why I call some ideas fascistic and people believeing in them as facists..Challange me?

I am sorry but yes..You fall into that category of those who are thick, unenlightened, uninformed, moronic people..

The reality is that you do not KNOW the incidents I bring here..do you? Because you are oblivious to your country..

I dont give a penny if you are or not.

.But when you come here and accuse me for the topics you never heard  or thought of I will call you ignorant!!

I will call you pumpkin head and make a mockery of its seeds which you witlessly call as brains!!

 

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Why do you constantly stir shit up, and get annoyed when some of that shit is rubbed in your own face? Why don´t you try to make your posts with a neutral tone and without bias so that people can actually have a civilized discussion without having shit rubbed on their faces or without having to rub shit on your face? I´ll tell you why. Because you choose not to. You are not really interested in having a decent conversation. You are interested in stirring shit (for whatever reason). You are not interested in discussing the issues that you seem to post about. You are interested in annoying people - in most cases annoying Turks.


 

 

I am not stirring anything at all..Calm down..

I am not the person who is annoyed here..

And  shit is rubbed my face? ha ha..What shit is that?

Taking it from your face and throwing it towards me and hope the best it will find the target?

What is this neutral tone? what is it?

Since you almost write NOTHING substantial  in  politics section and spend your sweet orange pumpkin head´s energy trying to bark at me and fail fantastically, what is it? show us then..

 

The way I write is my concern..If you have ideas, write your ideas here the way you know the best( But you have to read and have some knowledge about Turkey first though )

I am not going to show any remorse for  fragile and delicate feelings of some people who never tried to search the important subjects properly, who chanted ´blood for blood´ in streets, who boast their empty souls with rethorics derived from bogus turkishness which is done by the turks for the turks, who never ever thought that kurds are as citizen as turks, who never showed a tiny winy remorse about thousands of people taken from homes and put bullet into their heads, who never felt a lil bit of sorry for the Armenians that lived with us hundereds of years etc..

If they will get annoyed..so what?

 

Quote:

I will tell you why most Turks get annoyed by your posts. We are aware of the many problems that you talk about. Many are aware that  Turkey is in a state of transition, and that there are still many things wrong about many of its policies and institutions. Issues, such as injustice to minorities, police brutality, bogus legislations, such as the Turkishness etc, oppression of the public, lack of freedom of speech regarding certain topics, and many others exist all over the world. Same or similar problems exist in the developed word, just as they exist in the developing countries, or even in dictatorships. Just like you, we also read the paper and watch the news. Just like you we also get enraged by injustice and oppressive policies. Just like you, many of us dream of a better world, where people are no longer oppressed and are in control of their lives hoping to achieve their dreams. We do get enraged though when half-ass-clowns like you try to rub shit on our faces. You cannot really blame us for being intolerant to little assholes like you. As much as we are aware of Turkey´s problems, we are also hopeful that, one day in the future, we will overcome these issues and make Turkey a better place. Whether you call that a love for one´s country, patriotism, being brainwashed, or a desire for a more just society does not really matter. The desire for a better future is in everyone´s heart whether Turkish, Kurdish, American, or Eskimo. When you can bring yourself to accept realities not as exclusively Turkish realities, but as realities pertaining to human nature in general, then you will understand how pointless most of your posts in the politics section are.


 

 

 

I agree with most of that section..

Yes, but I wont agree with the ´shit on your face´ bit..

Year after year, ´ah dont speak about that. what the  foreigners will think´, ´ah dont make it public what about the image of Turkey for the  African leaders´, ´do not open your mouth, it is not the right time because Paris Hilton is having a shag in Hilton Istanbul´.. Blah blah yani...

Enough is enough!!

But then when?

Turkish people deserve a proper democracy and a better life..

And fascisms and primitive democracies are not replaced by their rulers thinking that ´ah it is time, lets switch to a better democracy´.

You have to oppose them..it is absolutely a necessity..

Look my sweet pumpking head..Go and read abit about how the democracies grow  and develeop in countries...

You do realize that I assume, if people opposed to ´arresting childeren´  years ago, there would not be this year´s incident..

 

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....Keep posting your garbage; keep rubbing shit on people´s faces, and see how some of that shit will be rubbed back on your face

 

 

Well I am still waiting for  someone attampting ro rub shit on my face here..lol

But boy, you are not the one..

You are as deeply burried into shit as the ones forced those kids to open their hands to look for ;traces of stones´.

And I always hated the smell of shit and people who dont realize they are in it..

 

Last word:

I am the wrong tree for you my orange pumpkin.. If you claim you are really concerned about what shit is going on in the country from you made a dash into the world, bark at he right tree..


 



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60.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 11:57 pm

I am locking this thread now because of continuous personal insults

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