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When will the Christians Recognize the Native American Genocide
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1.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:03 pm

Scholars of the Holocaust have been able to take two fundamental axioms for granted—
that the Shoah is a historical fact, and that it was an extraordinary mass-murder that
took place in the modern era—despite denial by so-called "revisionists," mainly old
Nazis, neo-Nazis, antisemites, and cranks. For the most part scholars have received
an attentive hearing concerning their histories of and their explanations for the Shoah.
In contrast, writers concerned with documenting and explaining the unprecedented
and extraordinary demographic collapse, genocide, and cultural destruction of millions
of native Americans from 1492 to the present have not been granted the same
credibility and respect.
Basic facts about the destruction are still debated, as well as the culpability of
the Europeans whose conquest of the New World set the stage for the disaster. How
many natives were there when the Europeans arrived? If there were over a hundred
million Indians—as some recent scholarship suggests—what happened to them and
to their descendants? Did they perish mainly from epidemics like smallpox, cholera,
and bubonic plague that were brought to the New World by the Europeans, or were
they massacred by gold-seeking conquistadores and land-hungry colonists for whom
natives were nothing more than "heathen savages?" If plagues killed off most natives,
what responsibility should be borne by the Europeans? At some point—even without
a germ theory of disease—the colonists must have understood that their very presence
was lethal to the natives. What happened then? Did the Europeans withdraw in
horror at what they had done, even if unintentionally, or did they welcome the mass
death of the natives and see it as providential, God´s will facilitating the conquest of
the New World by destroying its indigenous inhabitants?
Ward Churchill, a professor of American Indian studies at the University of
Colorado at Boulder, is a scholar-activist who has been a member of the American
Indian Movement. His previous publications have included Fantasies of the Master
270 Holocaust and Cenocide Studies
Race, Struggle for the Land, Since Predator Came, and From a Native Son. His
main thesis in this ambitious but ironically titled book is that Native Americans were
the clear victims of a process of genocide that commenced with Columbus´s landing
in the New World and has not ceased to this day. His work recapitulates that of
David Stannard s American Holocaust—Stannard wrote the preface to this volume—
although Churchill goes beyond Stannard in some important ways.1
His book is divided into nine chapters. The first three deal with the problem of
denial of the Native American genocide. The next three recapitulate its history, starting
with Columbus, and bring the story to 1996. Genocidal policies were carried out
recently by national armies against native populations in Guatemala and El Salvador,
with, Churchill argues, the United States´ connivance. Indigenous peoples are still
being massacred in Paraguay, Brazil, Columbia, and Venezuela, presumably because
Indians are in the path of "civilization" and "development." The seventh chapter argues
that Native Americans in the United States form an exploited "internal colony"
whose territories have been wantonly used for nuclear testing, disregarding the health
and well-being of the indigenous people. The last two chapters concern the United
States´ long unwillingness, from 1948 to 1988, to ratify the Genocide Convention; the
final chapter also attempts to reformulate the definition of genocide and the Genocide
Convention by making cultural destruction an explicit part of the definition.

 

http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/14/2/270.pdf

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:06 pm

You are doing nicely, eh Tami, blaming others whilst shutting your eyes for your own mistakes (and worse)? Go on, boy, go on. It´s funny to read with what you spend your time.

3.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:08 pm

the Native American Genocide carried out by the European christians constitutes the biggest ethnic cleansing throughout the history, and it`s not recognized by any of the Christian countries today.

4.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:09 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

You are doing nicely, eh Tami, blaming others whilst shutting your eyes for your own mistakes (and worse)?

 

that`s exactly what Im trying to say. why do you christians ignore the native american genocide?



Edited (8/8/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:17 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

that`s exactly what Im trying to say. why do you christians ignore the native american genocide?

 

 Do we all? Have you spoken to all of us? Good boy.

6.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:18 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Do we all? Have you spoken to all of us? Good boy.

 

I`m talking about the christian countries, not you.



Edited (8/8/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

7.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:23 pm

Tami, are you implying that Christians believe that Indians gave up their land without any objections? That they weren´t exterminated, forced to live in reservations? That Christians are proud to have wiped out thousands of people? I may be mistaken but all people know it´s a fact that it was genoicide. I think the US government runs programmes to support local culture and to make up for what happened to the Native Americans.

 

And who should be to blame? I mean, which countries? As I suppose you know it wasn´t one country that conquered America. Moreover, those countries differed in their official religions so it´s hard to blame one denomination and/or the religious motivation of the genoicide. Do you think that if Muslims of thet time were clever enough to discover America they´d make friends with the natives?

 

I´m not sure what your point is...

8.       Trudy
7887 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:23 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

I`m talking about the christian countries, not you.

 

 Ok. Tell me, when will Turkey admit the Armenian case?

9.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:25 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Ok. Tell me, when will Turkey admit the Armenian case?

 

when Armenia admits the Turkish genocide.

 

 

ok Trudy when will America and your country recognize the native American genocide?

10.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 08 Aug 2009 Sat 11:27 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Tami, are you implying that Christians believe that Indians gave up their land without any objections? That they weren´t exterminated, forced to live in reservations? That Christians are proud to have wiped out thousands of people? I may be mistaken but all people know it´s a fact that it was genoicide. I think the US government runs programmes to support local culture and to make up for what happened to the Native Americans.

 

And who should be to blame? I mean, which countries? As I suppose you know it wasn´t one country that conquered America. Moreover, those countries differed in their official religions so it´s hard to blame one denomination and/or the religious motivation of the genoicide. Do you think that if Muslims of thet time were clever enough to discover America they´d make friends with the natives?

 

I´m not sure what your point is...

 

I`m just asking when the christian countries will recognize this genocide? is it too complicated?

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