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When will the Christians Recognize the Native American Genocide
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30.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 03:05 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 You can´t read?  Your American education is failing you it seems.  I think your questions have been sufficently answered.  

I responded to you.  DD responded to you.  Trudy responded to you.  The problem is that you aren´t getting the answer YOU want.  What a tragedy. 

I´ve wasted enough time with you....once again you have bored me beyond words.   I hope one day you will come up with something new and intelligent to say and not just the same-old-same-old.  Until then...........ohhhhh dear, I feel another Tami-induced yawn coming on! 

 

what`s the answer? either I missed something or you think responding to a post automatically means an answer.

 

You want me to repeat my question?

31.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 03:13 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

what`s the answer? either I missed something or you think responding to a post automatically means an answer.

 

You want me to repeat my question?

 

 A little autistic honey? Repeating the same thing can be a psychological failure.

32.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 03:18 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 A little autistic honey? Repeating the same thing can be a psychological failure.

 

not being able to answer a question in a debate is a sign of failure too.

33.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 03:22 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

not being able to answer a question in a debate is a sign of failure too.

 

 Not being able to recognize that no one here can answer your rhethorical question is a sign that you are just trying...once again...to stir up your crap. 

You can go on all you like Tami but until you actually want to engage in a discussion instead of trying to prove a point....any response to you is worthless and I for one, will not play along.  

 

 

34.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:00 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

no one here can answer your rhetorical question

 

thanks for admitting that ggCool

 

35.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:12 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

no one here can answer your rhetorical question

 

thanks for admitting that ggCool

 

 

 I already told you that.   If you would pay attention and stop your stupid games. 

Nobody here is a representative of their government, therefore, no one here can speak on behalf of their government.  Now go on and blow bubbles somewhere else. 

Bye Tami....it´s been a real bore.

36.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:16 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 I already told you that.   If you would pay attention and stop your stupid games. 

Nobody here is a representative of their government, therefore, no one here can speak on behalf of their government.  Now go on and blow bubbles somewhere else. 

Bye Tami....it´s been a real bore.

 

ok gg, calm down. losing a debate is not the end of the world.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

37.       alameda
3499 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:22 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

...................In contrast, writers concerned with documenting and explaining the unprecedented
and extraordinary demographic collapse, genocide, and cultural destruction of millions
of native Americans from 1492 to the present have not been granted the same
credibility and respect.

http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/14/2/270.pdf

 

Excellent article.  Ward Churchill´s work is respected in the Native American community.  Thank you for copying and posting it here. 


"The Rocky Mountain News, in 2005, published a genealogy of Churchill, and reported "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill´s]. The News reports that both of Churchill´s birth parents are listed as white on the 1930 census, as are all of his other known ancestors on previous censuses and other official documents.[27] The Denver Post´s genealogical investigation resulted in the same conclusion."

 

It was actually not at all unusual to NOT register a Native American as Indian, but register them as white, that way territorial claimes were eliminated.  It´s an old trick that is still going on.  Actually there are many tribes aren´t even recognized today.

 

Yes, it is undeniably a great tragedy.  Is there anyone who truly does not recognize it?  The issue is, what can be done about it?  At the very least, a great sense of shame should be felt by all......and yes it was because they were not Christians that such actions were felt to have been justified.  Who knows what knowledge was lost  by the destruction of the codices?

38.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:22 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

ok gg, calm down. losing a debate is not the end of the world.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 If it makes your teensy head feel better darling then you can go ahead and think that I lost....but to lose a debate, there has to BE a debate. 

You admitted you asked a rhetorical question.  That is no debate....you just want to push buttons.  Too bad for you that you really aren´t accomplishing what you want.  Perhaps if you had something worthy to say.............but I won´t hold my breath for that. 

39.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 04:40 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

  Is there anyone who truly does not recognize it? 

 

don`t assume everyone recognizes the native American genocide.Also we are talking about governments not individuals, and no government recognizes the Native American Genocide.

 

here is the comment of an American about the issue

 

 

 

 

Re: When was the Native Ameriocan holocaust acknowledged?
by bill sullivan

WE dont need to "make a deal" We arent equivilant to Turkey. We are US. If thats hypocritical, so what. I never understood liberals fetishizing hypocrisy. Most everyone is a hypocrite at one time or another. AS for the American Indians, i subscribe to Manifest Destiny. There were savages and we needed to expand and they wouldnt submit. End of story.

 

http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2641056.aspx

 

 

40.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Aug 2009 Sun 01:12 pm

Tami, like GG´s already told you it´s not a debate. You had all your questiones answered but still you don´t see the answer. Ok, I´ll talk as simply as I can:

 

1. We, bed westerners GG, Trudy, DD, feel that it should be recognised but we can´t decide for our countries. In our countries there are many people who feel like us

2. Tribunal is a body that reviews claims of genocide deciding which acts fall for this category and which don´t. Each claim had its own tribunal that compared the claim to the definition

3. Christian countires, as you call them, in Europe and the US are countries that share a similar history, political attitude and economy. Since the tribunal they called decided it wasn´t genocide, they voted like they did. Why Russia and south America voted the same way - I have no idea. You can hardly consider Russia an ally of western policies.

4. You were trying to present western world as a bunch of hypocrites who stick together against non-Christians. It is so naive that only a child could fall for it. You consider religion to be the cause but it´s just one of the culturasl aspects that these countries share. And it wasn´t the motive for the conquest of America. I´m sure you remember that the "bed Christian western tribunal" recognised the genocide of Muslims in Bosnia - against the Christian Serbs. How does this fall into your bias against Christian countries?

 

The bottom line is, you´re wrong as usual. Yawn. lol

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