which means Turkish law does not grant equality to Kurds, and they can`t use their language in Turkey! The question is when will America stop enslaving the Blacks?

btw. you write at kurdishmedia.com?

How eactly are black people enslaved in America? To my best knowledge it´s harder to fire a black person, they are granted a percentage of places in universities and have a variety of grands. They´re the ones free to be proud of being black while being proud of being white is considered racist.

The bottom line is the US did a LOT to promote black culture, encourage their education and well-being.

How are Kurds oppresed? How about

1. by Turks generally pretending there is no Kurdish problem while what happens in the east resembles wild wild west

2. Making it hard for them to use their names spelt the way to show their ethnical background

3. Not investing in the east to ensure prospects to the well being of the society there

4. Sending worst teachers to that area

5. Forbidding them to celibrate their holidays

And, no, I am not really involved into Kurdish things, not really interested in that subject. All I do is express unbiased (I´m neither Turkish nor Kurdish) opinion about how I see things

who pretends there isn`t a Kurdish problem? yes there is a big Kurdish problem and it`s about the fascist Kurdish feudal system in the south east, it`s about honor killings, blood feuds, smuggling weapons, oil and drugs.

and guess what? it`s the Kurds who ignores these, not Turks.

yeah, the sole idea of introducing the Turkish alphabet was to make the Kurdish names spelt wrong. I`m still wondering why this is totally fine in America and many other countries though.

I`ll give you $1 million, go and invest in the south east if you don`t mind getting killed by the Kurdish terrorists

you got that idea from AE? she was just doing a copy-paste of what chiko told her. do you know how many teachers, doctors, and police officers got killed by the Kurds in the south east? would you go there if you were a teacher? and who are the "good teachers" anyway? who determines good teachers from bad teachers? is there  a statistical work proving that only "bad teachers" are sent to the south east. let me tell you that chiko was stoned when he threw that out.

which holiday is it? and how is it forbidden? any proof?

I`m not gonna argue with you about the Kurdish terrorism dd, your hypocrisy is well exposed. you first came up with the lie that Kurds can`t speak their language in Turkey, and they are not equal now this. If that`s true, I`m still waiting an answer to my question. if Kurds can`t speak their language in Turkey, isn`t it also true that Americans still enslave the blacks?

, where have I said Kurds can´t speak their language in Turkey? Please provide me a link What I said was that they can´t register names spelt according to their tradition And I never said Turks invented alphabet to make Kurds angry

So, it´s not true they can´t register their names spelt in the proper way?

That´s news...

I have a few Turkish friends who happen to be teachers (no, they´re not Kurdish, as a matter of fact I don´t know a single Kurd ) there is an exam taken at the end of the uni and they´re assigned to schools basing on the results of the eam. You get a low average - hello east

Hasn´t it occured to you that the poorer the people the less they respect? So not giving them equal opportunities means pushing them to terrorism.

Regarding the holiday, we had a debate about a spring festival I think that Kurds were banned to celebrate. It was about 2 years ago, I think. Check our archives to see.

Ok, so you said that if Kurds are banned from speaking their language, the black are enslaved. We know that Kurds have been able to freely use Kurdish at home for whole 19 years now. So, it means the balck people in the US are not enslaved

Now, if they´re not enslaved then the terrorist got rightfully killed by the police

Thank you for proving my point. Again! Geez, winning with you is like taking crayons from a three-year-old

 Not to mention the fact that in the US there are organizations like the United Negro College Fund, the Congressional Black Caucus, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People....and on and on and on.  While any such organization dedicated only to caucasians would be roundly lambasted. 

Oh and lets not forget....we have a black President.

But none of this matters to Tami because he doesn´t really care.  The situation with this black muslim being shot for firing at officers trying to arrest him on felony charges has absolutely nothing to do with anything Tami is talking about.  He only used it as another piece of his propaganda pie.   Valid questions were raised about the connection between this person, this article and Tami´s most recent diatribe on the evil west but when pushed all he does is try to stir up crap about PKK supporters....... foolishly accusing people who have never once said anything in support of the PKK.   

Are the voices in your head telling you that every Westerner supports the PKK Tams????  If they are, you might want to start ingnoring them!!! 

FYI,  It is originally Turkic festival and because of Kurdish provocations Turkey Turks cannot celebrate it.  All other Central Asian Turkic people are still celebrating it...

" The idea in most of the posts on thins subject was that Kurds should be treated as equal and given the right to use their language and excercise those rites and ceremonies that do not stand in opposition to the Turkish law."

yeah that`s how the bloody Turks oppress the angelic Kurds, by not allowing them to register their names in the proper way. don`t worry, when America allows its minorities to register their names as in their native languages, we may think about it as well.

you`re talking about kpss and a low score at kpss does not necessarily mean appointment to the east. besides kpss is a general knowledge exam and it doesn`t measure how good a teacher at his/her field of study.

nevruz? I`ve never seen their banned to celebrate it. they do it every year burning cars on streets, vandalizing the government properties and chanting slogans for the Kurdish terrorists with a great extent of freedom.

yeah and now as Kurds can speak Kurdish, the Kurdish terrorists are killed rightfully by the Turkish army.and if there is any kind of fascism it`s of the Kurdish terrorists

Thanks for proving my point.

The quote you provided was not from my answer to your question about Kurdish oppression but from a summary of numerous posts we´ve had here for a couple of years describing what equality means. So, sorry, you fail

Expecting riots is not something that should prevent anyone from banning celebration, do you think all public gatherings in the US are peaceful? I don´t think so...

You must really lack arguments since you make up stories, don´t give me credit for supporting pkk as I´ve said it numerous times that I don´t. Hence your moaning about "killing a black muslim in the US being bad but killing poor Turks being good" is unjustified. I don´t think it´s ok to kill Turks even if you come from an oppressed group. But, yes, it is ok for the police to shoot an armed criminal who starts fire. And that is, regardless of the criminal´s race, religion or gender.

You´re trying to draw a parallel between the police killing a criminal for opening fire at them and Kurdish terrorists. It won´t work. Merely because, although you hate to accept it, most people here do not support Kurdish terrorists.

Again, I´ll do my best to get as simple as I can:

DD´s points:

1. Black people used to be discriminated

and

Kurds used to be discriminated

2. The US government has done a huge job to make amends and provide equal opportunities

and

Turkish government is going in the right direction but is not even half way as close to provide special treatment for Kurds as the US is in case of black people

3. Kurdish terrorists are bad

and

Criminals shooting at the police are bad

Tami´s points:

1. Black Muslims are oppressed in the US

but

Kurds are not oppressed in Turkey

2. The US should stop enslaving black people

but

Turkey is not to be blamed for Kurdish response to years of oppression (as there wasn´t any), Kurds are just mean people who do not love Turkey strong enough to leave their barbaric ways and want to become pure blood Turks. Instead, they kill Turkish people for fun and no other reason.

3. Kurdish terrorists are bad

but

A person who opens fire at federal agents is good

See what your problem is now?

We are good, you are bad... You are good we are bad...

I wish everyone were as good as they believe they are.

I wish the problems of the black people could really be solved...

I wish there would be no black or white people at all. I wish there were just people.

The same goes for the Kurds.

look who is talking about making up stories. ok if that`s the case tell us how Turkey is way behind America in terms of minority rights. what kind of rights do the Blacks have in America that the Kurds are lacking in Turkey. Moreover, what kind of "superior" rights do the Turks have that the Kurds don`t?

I`m tired of the baseless comments coming from those who don`t know even what they are talking about, such as "Turks should give Kurds their rights" (yeah they have no rights, we use them as slaves in coal mines)

Actually a lot of Muslims wear turbans Libralady....didn´t you notice all the turbans in the Ottoman graves in Turkey?  However, in this case it looks more like a costume from kitch casting to me than an authentic Islamic turban.  I have met more than a few of these people dressed up like super Muslims, and have found more often than not, their actual knowledge of Islam to be very lacking.  It annoys me that they run around calling themself Muslim and dressing like clowns in outfits that evolved for a particular purpose of which they have no knowledge of.

I would not say they are not Muslim, only Allah knows the secrets in their hearts, but they don´t have much of an knowledge regarding the a terbiye of Islam.