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Minaret ban ´wins Swiss support´
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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:34 pm

Minaret ban ´wins Swiss support´

 

 

 

"The initiative would appear to be accepted, there is a positive trend. It´s a huge surprise," French-language Swiss television said, 30 minutes after polls closed at mid-day.

The proposal to ban the building of minarets must win the support of voters in a majority of Switzerland´s 26 cantons for it to pass.

 

My comment: why don´t they ban Synagogues too

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/11/2009112912250816889.html

Exit polls from a national vote in Switzerland suggest that the country will accept a call by far-right parties for a ban on the construction of minarets on mosques, Swiss public television has reported.

One exit poll after the vote on Sunday said that approval for the ban stood at 53 per cent, while partial results from the poll indicated that the German-speaking canton of Lucerne accepted the ban.

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 04:29 pm

Turkish Teacher: again, please translate your Turkish text into English. 

3.       Turkish-Teacher
257 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 04:52 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Turkish Teacher: again, please translate your Turkish text into English. 

 

in switzerland if you say that you dont believe in armenian genocide, you end up in jail.

 

that´s ridiculous.

 

ETT

4.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 06:24 pm

 

Quoting Turkish-Teacher

 

 

in switzerland if you say that you dont believe in armenian genocide, you end up in jail.

 

that´s ridiculous.

 

ETT

 

It is also ridiculous that if you say in Turkey that there is Armenian genocide, you may also end up in jail!

5.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 09:59 pm

First of all, banning a synagogue does not equal banning a minaret... a minaret is not the same as banning the mosque itself. I think banning a minaret is also stupid though

I was suprised this bill passed... 57%..who would have thought. A guess the lobbyists did their job The ban is crazy, in the entire country there are like what...a handful of minarets?

6.       si++
3785 posts
 30 Nov 2009 Mon 11:11 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

It is also ridiculous that if you say in Turkey that there is Armenian genocide, you may also end up in jail!

 

Would you please let us know if you have any evidence?

 

And also note that they passed a law for it in Switzerland. There is not any such Turkish law for it.

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 01:59 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Would you please let us know if you have any evidence?

 

And also note that they passed a law for it in Switzerland. There is not any such Turkish law for it.

 

True, I don´t have any evidence, yet.. although it would be interesting to look into it. There IS a LAW in Turkey about insulting Turkishness, that is even more ridiculous, you must admit. And I´m pretty sure someone went to jail for denying "armenian genocide" under the Law 301.

8.       armegon
1872 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 04:52 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

True, I don´t have any evidence, yet.. although it would be interesting to look into it. There IS a LAW in Turkey about insulting Turkishness, that is even more ridiculous, you must admit. And I´m pretty sure someone went to jail for denying "armenian genocide" under the Law 301.

 

 Subject is Switzerland´s law and you changed it to Turkish law 301 to defence these laws. We call it "kıvırtma" in Turkish. FYI then many countries have that similar ridiculous laws. It is not unique to Turkey. You can begin with checking Polish one for  example. Btw Turkish one has changed, there is no "Türklük" anymore since it is uncertain.

9.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 05:09 am

 

it´Quoting armegon

 

 

 Subject is Switzerland´s law and you changed it to Turkish law 301 to defence these laws. We call it "kıvırtma" in Turkish. FYI then many countries have that similar ridiculous laws. It is not unique to Turkey. You can begin with checking Polish one for  example. Btw Turkish one has changed, there is no "Türklük" anymore since it is uncertain.

 

One of the terms for this tactic is called  digress in English........it´s a very effective.....

10.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 05:23 am

Catwoman, in a previous post I made references to the xenophobic nature of European culture. I believe if this referandum was made in any other European country (maybe except for Britain) the result would be more or less the same.

 

You usually take matters like this: they made a mistake and you also made a mistake therefore you have no right to criticize others. This is not a constructive approach. We must pay utmost care to maintain the focus on the problem at hand.

 

The decision of the Swiss people though predictable is a bid for a blatant violation of basic human rights. It is despicable, unacceptable, seperatist and it is a huge backward step taken by ignorant and narrow minds. Let us protest this without mixing it with other subjects.



Edited (12/1/2009) by vineyards [typo]

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