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Mongolia to import 20.000 males from Turkey
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 03:27 pm |
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There are numerous problems(or dirty tricks should I say) involved when comparing Turkish DNA to Central Asia. The most significant one is; in all of the studies I´ve encountered; none was carried on ethnic Turks only. We know Turkey has Kurds, Circassians, Arabs, Rums, Laz etc. who do not have any connection anyway; these groups must be excluded from such tests. This is no different than taking samples from a black British citizen and concluding British people are from Congo. Anyway; I have a lot of other things to say on this matter but I don´t think the topic is very suitable.
why not? go on, i will read it.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 03:27 pm |
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phew phew im so much relieved now after reading your post.
i never had any concern re: you, yersu, canim.
my cousine had his precious dna checked  he found out he had relatives in india, america (white american family) and even africa. we had a good laugh because are central asians.
yeah eayh, we know about migrations (a la invasions) from east to west. but it doesnt mean anything. when you check dna both of greeks and turks, they are pretty the same.
That is because your paternal DNA is not effected by reproduction. You can take a Chinese man and marry him to an Irish female, and do the same for their male offspring for generations. In the end all males will be physically & genetically totally Irish except for his YDNA, which will still retain as Chinese. Anyway, who cares. I don´t even know what I am talking about anymore.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 03:29 pm |
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Now why would you seriously concider that??
I think the whole world is suffering from that shortage.... maybe come help South Africa. We South African women are ready to trade our men for Turkish men .... I opt it to be a 10 year plan...I bet you there will be less fatherless children and definately the economy will reap the benefits.
Please do not take my comment seriouslly, I speak from myself, I do not represent the views of my fellow sistas over herelol
I am considering. (seriously)
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:09 pm |
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Now why would you seriously concider that??
I think the whole world is suffering from that shortage.... maybe come help South Africa. We South African women are ready to trade our men for Turkish men.... I opt it to be a 10 year plan...I bet you there will be less fatherless children and definately the economy will reap the benefits.
Please do not take my comment seriouslly, I speak from myself, I do not represent the views of my fellow sistas over herelol
My personal reason is that Mongolia and Central Asian steppes are the ancestral homeland of our people. (Although we are a mixed bunch now, most Turkish people align themselves with other Turkic peoples rather than our neighbors). It would be a shame if Mongolia is annexed by China or Russia due to demographic and economic issues, so I am ready to make the sacrifice. Besides I always wondered how it would be like living a totally pastoral life, riding a horse in the steppes etc.
As for turkish men, I don´t think they are special or different in any way. It´s like the saying "davulun sesi uzaktan hoş gelir"(A drums sound is pleasant from far away).
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:14 pm |
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turks are greeks. they are europeans, not asians.
Oh Dear....It was nice knowing you lemon! 
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:39 pm |
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My personal reason is that Mongolia and Central Asian steppes are the ancestral homeland of our people. (Although we are a mixed bunch now, most Turkish people align themselves with other Turkic peoples rather than our neighbors). It would be a shame if Mongolia is annexed by China or Russia due to demographic and economic issues, so I am ready to make the sacrifice. Besides I always wondered how it would be like living a totally pastoral life, riding a horse in the steppes etc.
As for turkish men, I don´t think they are special or different in any way. It´s like the saying "davulun sesi uzaktan hoş gelir"(A drums sound is pleasant from far away).
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there you go! got you!
im telling ya, you ve got nothing to do with central asians. only about 3%.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:40 pm |
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Here is the poster of the campaign
constructive Turkish people 
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:41 pm |
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Don´t believe in the news you read in the Turkish media. As far as I can observe even the most accurate news are only about 80% true.
exactly!
news articles written by pan-turkists to make the nation feel vast imperial! to make turks live in past feeding them with mish-mash.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:45 pm |
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There are numerous problems(or dirty tricks should I say) involved when comparing Turkish DNA to Central Asia. The most significant one is; in all of the studies I´ve encountered; none was carried on ethnic Turks only. We know Turkey has Kurds, Circassians, Arabs, Rums, Laz etc. who do not have any connection anyway; these groups must be excluded from such tests. This is no different than taking samples from a black British citizen and concluding British people are from Congo. Anyway; I have a lot of other things to say on this matter but I don´t think the topic is very suitable.
lalalalala tralalalala!
you think those scientists who do research on dna stats have no idea of ethnicities living in turkey and grab anyone from the streets, drag into the lab, get the material and publish the results?
give them some credits to them.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:46 pm |
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Oh Dear....It was nice knowing you lemon!
what? what do you want? 
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:55 pm |
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there you go! got you!
im telling ya, you ve got nothing to do with central asians. only about 3%.
There you go what? I expressed that I do not want Mongolia to be annexed by its stronger neighbors. What is wrong with that?
As for %3, there are various papers on the subject; with values ranging from %9 to %40. Can you please quote your source since this is the lowest estimation I have seen so far?
The %9 theory takes into consideration YDNA haplogroups C,N,O,Q which makes no sense. Here is a video about it explaining why that theory is full of errors. (in Turkish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsET-brrzc
Note that for all of these theories the sample group is Turkish citizens, not ethnic Turks. So one would expect to see even higher values for ethnic Turks. Here is a rather recent article from Genome News Network about ancient Xiong-nu (Asia Huns) burial sites in Mongolia and their genetic connections to anatolian population.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtml
Quoting: "Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period. "
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