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Mongolia to import 20.000 males from Turkey
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:55 pm |
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there you go! got you!
im telling ya, you ve got nothing to do with central asians. only about 3%.
There you go what? I expressed that I do not want Mongolia to be annexed by its stronger neighbors. What is wrong with that?
As for %3, there are various papers on the subject; with values ranging from %9 to %40. Can you please quote your source since this is the lowest estimation I have seen so far?
The %9 theory takes into consideration YDNA haplogroups C,N,O,Q which makes no sense. Here is a video about it explaining why that theory is full of errors. (in Turkish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsET-brrzc
Note that for all of these theories the sample group is Turkish citizens, not ethnic Turks. So one would expect to see even higher values for ethnic Turks. Here is a rather recent article from Genome News Network about ancient Xiong-nu (Asia Huns) burial sites in Mongolia and their genetic connections to anatolian population.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtml
Quoting: "Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period. "
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 04:59 pm |
lalalalala tralalalala!
you think those scientists who do research on dna stats have no idea of ethnicities living in turkey and grab anyone from the streets, drag into the lab, get the material and publish the results?
give them some credits to them.
Dear lemon, you do not seem very knowledgeable on the subject. At the same time; being so anti about this whole stuff you don´t seem to be someone unconcerned. As a result I can only conclude that you are a Turkic person by ethnicity. May I learn where you are from?
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 05:54 pm |
what? what do you want?
I just wanted to say goodbye before all the "Turks" chewed you up for calling them Greeks!! You´re a very sour lemon today and you need to stop with your lies !!
Edited (1/22/2010) by Elisabeth
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 05:58 pm |
I just wanted to say goodbye before all the "Turks" chewed you up for calling them Greeks!! You´re a very sour lemon today and you need to stop with your lies !!
Maybe Greeks would have a problem with that. I already feel we are very similar.
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 05:59 pm |
have your facts, first, canim. you ve got nothing to do with mongolians (nor central asians) genetically. linguistically, yes.
turks are greeks. they are europeans, not asians.
In fact Turkey Turks are the essence of Turkic people, as they were never ruled by Mongolians or Russians centuries like the ones in central Asia as some of them hardly speak Turkish like all speak Russian. Throughout the history Oghuzs were mixed with persians, greks,arabs etc but the dominant was always the Turkic culture since then they began to call them Turks instead of Oghuzs, other ones are sub-cultures so in that essence we can say Greks are Turks ...
Edited (1/22/2010) by armegon
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 06:03 pm |
Maybe Greeks would have a problem with that. I already feel we are very similar.
Vinyards! SHHHHHHH! I have been to both countries.....my brothers are both Greek (my mother was married to a Greek man before she married my father) and I am married to a Turk...other than religion....I don´t notice much difference either....please don´t tell on me!
Edited (1/22/2010) by Elisabeth
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 06:31 pm |
Vinyards! SHHHHHHH! I have been to both countries.....my brothers are both Greek (my mother was married to a Greek man before she married my father) and I am married to a Turk...other than religion....I don´t notice much difference either....please don´t tell on me!
I also agree there are similarities, what I object is Turks are thought of as converted Greeks while the truth is far from it. The main similarity comes from:
-Half Millenium of Turkish occupation.
-Population exchange; in which the young Greek nation of about 4 millions received an influx of more than 1.5 million Anatolian Rums. Rums are mostly Hellenised peoples of Asia Minor and are not ethnic Greeks. You can go as far to call them culturally Turkified people, most of them spoke Turkish, sang Turkish/Rum songs etc. Heck there were even actually Orthodox Turks amongst them (Karamanides of the former Karamanoğlu State); as the exchange was based on religion.
How many Greeks actually know that the Greek folk instrument Bouzuki is a variation of the Turkish bağlama from the 18th century, and its name derives from "bozuk" (bozuk düzen is a type of tuning system for the bağlama which bouzuki is tuned to). Their Zeybekiko and Rembetiko are not native to mainkand Greece, these are from Anatolia. The list just goes on and on.
Anyway; what I am trying to tell is; influence goes both ways. One also has to think about Turkish influences on Greeks when considering why these people are culturally/genetically close.
I like Greeks, especially Turks & Greeks who are in Europe and who are away from all that Greek vs Turkey tensions make good friends, I have seen it many times. But there are some amongst them who hate Turks with a passion, then go to a restaurant and eat "Kazandipi" claiming it´s an ancient Hellenic name for an ancient Hellenic dessert. Oh well
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 08:46 pm |
I just wanted to say goodbye before all the "Turks" chewed you up for calling them Greeks!! You´re a very sour lemon today and you need to stop with your lies !!
So where did Baklava originate from....I have heard both Greeks and Turks make the claim...and who owns Cyprus?
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22 Jan 2010 Fri 08:50 pm |
So where did Baklava originate from....I have heard both Greeks and Turks make the claim...and who owns Cyprus?
You and lemon really want to get in trouble today, don´t you!
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23 Jan 2010 Sat 10:20 am |
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there you go! got you!
im telling ya, you ve got nothing to do with central asians. only about 3%.
So what? Genetically I can be anything (x% central asian where x=0 to 100 ), who cares?
I feel 100% Turk and that´s what matters to me. As Atatürk once wisely said:
"Ne mutlu Türküm diyene"
Edited (1/23/2010) by si++
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23 Jan 2010 Sat 11:52 am |
So where did Baklava originate from....I have heard both Greeks and Turks make the claim...and who owns Cyprus?
The word baklava entered English from Turkish it is sometimes connected with the Arabic word for "bean" (بقلة /baqlah/), but Wehr´s dictionary lists them as unrelated; the Arabic name is doubtless a borrowing from Turkish. Buell argues that the word "baklava" may come from the Mongolian root baγla- ´to tie, wrap up, pile up´ composed with the Turkic verbal ending -v; baγla- itself in Mongolian is a Turkic loanword. The name baklava is used in many languages with minor phonetic and spelling variations.
Whoever owns Cyprus owns it currently. You have a problem with the current owners?
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