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1.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Feb 2010 Sun 11:46 pm

We all know about the recent earthquake in Chili, and the one in Haiti.  It seems to me there has been an increase in intense earthquake in recent years. 

 

It seems to me there has been many more deally earthquakes recently, so I did a little research and found this:

 

 

Chile: February 27, 2010
A magnitude 8.8 earthquake hits central Chile, about 91km north-east of the city of Concepcion and 317km south-west of the capital, Santiago.
Haiti: January 12, 2010

A magnitude 7.0 earthquake hits the capital Port-au-Prince demolishing buildings across the city, killing more than 200,000.

Sumatra, Indonesia: September 30, 2009

Magnitude 7.6 earthquake hits the city of Padang and surrounding areas, killing more than 1,100 people.

Samoan islands: September 29, 2009

A magnitude 8 to 8.3 quake hit between the islands of Samoa and American Samoa, triggering a powerful series of tsunamis.

At least 186 people are killed.

Bhutan: September 21, 2009

A magnitude 6.1 quake struck 180km east of Thimphu, the capital of Bhutan. At least 10 people were killed.

Andaman and Nicobar islands: August 10, 2009

A magnitude 7.6 quake struck in the Indian Ocean islands. No fatalities were recorded.

Japan: August 9, 2009

A magnitude 7.1 quake struck off the south coast of Honshu, Japan´s main island.

No fatalities or damage was recorded.

New Zealand: July 15, 2009

A 7.6 magnitude quake struck off the coast of New Zealand´s south island.

No fatalities or damage was recorded as it struck 150km west of the town of Invercargill.

Italy: April 6, 2009

A 6.3 magnitude quake struck the city of L´Aquila, in the mountainous Abruzzo region, east of Rome, killing at least 292 people.
Pakistan: October 29, 2008
A 6.8 magnitude quake struck 60km northeast of Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan province, killing at least 160 people.

China: May 12, 2008

More than 70,000 people were killed in Sichuan province after a 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit the region.

Pakistan: October 8, 2005

At least 73,000 people were killed by a 7.6 magnitude quake that struck about 95km northeast of Islamabad. The quake also rocked Indian-administered Kashmir, killing 1,244 people there.

Aceh, Indonesia: December 26, 2004

A massive 9.1 magnitude quake strikes off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, triggering a series of deadly tsunamis that sweep across the Indian Ocean.

Around 230,000 people are killed, with Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Thailand among the worst-hit countries.

 

 

more can be found here....

2.       lemon
1374 posts
 28 Feb 2010 Sun 11:56 pm

lots of earthquakes are expected at the end of the world.

3.       spritzer
106 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 12:03 am

end or beginning the change has been ongoing it is just with internet and immediate news we hear about more of them .........

Earthquakes happen all the time. There are probably several happening right now at different places around the world. But they´re all small ones, and are mostly not noticed. We only know about most of them because we have electronic instruments that can detect them. Some slightly larger ones happen less often, and are noticed, though they don´t do any damage. Even less often is a large one that does some noticible shaking and some minor damage. The really big ones are least frequent. Fortunately.

The crust of the earth is made up of gigantic tectonic plates, and they are always in motion against, along or away from each other. The gradual movement of these plates releases energy, and we see these releases of energy as earthquakes. Along the plate boundaries we see what are called fault lines, and the quakes usually center on or around them.

As regards when the next "big" quake will come, we don´t know. But it is coming. Big quakes have punctuated all of recorded history, and will continue to do so. We live on a living planet. Even the earth itself is alive. It can move - and it does.



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4.       Yersu
241 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 12:21 am

 

Quoting lemon

lots of earthquakes are expected at the end of the world.

 

I blame sinners and infidels! {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

5.       spritzer
106 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 12:35 am

seems like you need more education to understand this is not some perceived punishment from a religous text

 

 

There´s a 100 percent chance of an earthquake today.

Earthquakes are very common occurrences on this planet. So today -- somewhere -- an earthquake will occur.

It may be so light that only sensitive instruments will perceive its motion; it may shake houses, rattle windows, and displace small objects; or it may be sufficiently strong to cause property damage, injury, and death.

It is estimated that there are 500,000 detectable earthquakes in the world each year. 100,000 of those can be felt, and 100 of them cause damage.

6.       Henry
2604 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 12:46 am

An earthquake over 7 on the Richter scale also hit Okinawa Japan on the same day as the Chilean quake. Because (and thankfully) no-one died, it got almost no world news coverage. This reinforces the fact that earthquakes happen all the time, but not all are widely reported. Only major disasters or graphic video footage are worthy of news time on television in the minds of broadcasters.  

7.       lemon
1374 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 01:17 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

I blame sinners and infidels! {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

 

I dont blame anyone.

 

8.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 01:26 am

Yes Henry, I know earthquakes happen all the time. My point was there seems to be an increase in the incidence of large ( high on the richter scale) earthquakes.

 

I live in CA, between more than one large earthquake faults...which is to say, I am not exactly naive regarding earthquakes....I watch these activities.

 

The point I have brought up is the fact that large earthquakes.....very large earthquakes do not happen all the time.

 

I wonder if there is something we are doing that is causing the increase....drilling, testing bombs....bombing....or whatever.......If you test bombs underground, could that cause sismec activity? If you pump out layers of stuff...could that cause seismic activity?

 

CA faults

global seismec map

 

Quoting Henry

An earthquake over 7 on the Richter scale also hit Okinawa Japan on the same day as the Chilean quake. Because (and thankfully) no-one died, it got almost no world news coverage. This reinforces the fact that earthquakes happen all the time, but not all are widely reported. Only major disasters or graphic video footage are worthy of news time on television in the minds of broadcasters.  

 

 



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9.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 06:45 pm

I think there are more intense earthquakes happening recently but if you look back long enough in earth´s history, you will find that this happens in cycles.  There are periods in geological history when the earth is quiet and times when it is not.  

 

If the earth choses to swallow us whole, it will do so regardless of our religion or environmental sensitivities.  I don´t think we need to be stirring up rumors of the end of the world or conjuring conspiracy theories about drilling to figure this out. 

10.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 08:43 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

..................I don´t think we need to be stirring up rumors of the end of the world or conjuring conspiracy theories about drilling to figure this out. 

 

I´m not making up a conspiracy theory Elisabeth....it´s a simple fact if you pull a book from the bottom of the pile, the other books will shift positon. It happens over and over. Have you ever been to the market and seen how oranges or apples are displayed? You don´t take the one from the bottom, you take the ones on the top.  If you have a frozen item that is partly liquid, like on the bottom, and you remove part of the bottom liquid, the top has to shift....just the way things work. This has nothing to do with religion....

 

 

11.       spritzer
106 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 09:47 pm

This is like saying I will die sometime  so I should start to panic now. If you look in history they have occurred in the earliest written time. Part of nature the same way it rains/snows or is a sunny day. True with internet and better ways of getting world news to everyone you can be in the zone at the time it occurred. 50 years ago you would read a blurb in your local newspaper about someones death or some catastrophic event. Now we can text, photo and relay it to all as it happens. What you are saying is a normal occurance and no more or less than 50 years ago. Even equipment for measuring has improved that is why you get readings of higher numbers. We just hear about it and get to see the graphic details. Sort of like now on utube you can watch footage of actual wars occurring right now.    pffffft lets get on with life



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12.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:11 pm

Death is inevitable....none of us will escape it....so who is in a panic? Face it and get on with the business of living your life....that does not eliminate the value of an analysis of current  events, particularly those that impact oneself.

 

What is the saying....a life unexamined is a life................???

Quoting spritzer

This is like saying I will die sometime  so I should start to panic now. If you look in history they have occurred in the earliest written time. Part of nature the same way it rains/snows or is a sunny day. True with internet and better ways of getting world news to everyone you can be in the zone at the time it occurred. 50 years ago you would read a blurb in your local newspaper about someones death or some catastrophic event. Now we can text, photo and relay it to all as it happens. What you are saying is a normal occurance and no more or less than 50 years ago. Even equipment for measuring has improved that is why you get readings of higher numbers. We just hear about it and get to see the graphic details. Sort of like now on utube you can watch footage of actual wars occurring right now.    pffffft lets get on with life

 

 

13.       spritzer
106 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:17 pm

keep running up hill both ways lol

all i was saying is you alerting this as something new is old news : About 4.5 billion years ago, when the earth cooled enough to have a solid crust.

This is a continuous beause of the formation of earth

14.       raindrops
267 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:21 pm

switch yourself from many info sources and i bet next day you will live in very peaceful world.

if you live somewhere in small village in europe you wont know about earthquake, tsunami, flood etc. make sure your neighbours do the same and you again will believe this Earth still has millions years ahead...

15.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:29 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I´m not making up a conspiracy theory Elisabeth....it´s a simple fact if you pull a book from the bottom of the pile, the other books will shift positon. It happens over and over. Have you ever been to the market and seen how oranges or apples are displayed? You don´t take the one from the bottom, you take the ones on the top.  If you have a frozen item that is partly liquid, like on the bottom, and you remove part of the bottom liquid, the top has to shift....just the way things work. This has nothing to do with religion....

 

 

 

I wasn´t referring to you with respect to religion and I just don´t agree with you that man is affecting earthquakes.   



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16.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:40 pm

It is your interpretation that this was an "alert"....rather than a simple observation of facts. 

 

The universe is not static, things change all the time. This second is not like the last, or like the others yet to appear.

 

I have seen species go extinct, new ones discovered.  Right now I can´t get wild salmon because of things done to the water ways here. When I was a child they were abundant. Now they are endangered. The eagle was almost extinct because of human activities. Water has had to be rationed because it was squandered.....all these events took place because of human activity. ....so I advocate for reflection and analysis of current events and possible causes.  

 

I am thinking about things.....and questioning.

 

Quoting spritzer

keep running up hill both ways lol

all i was saying is you alerting this as something new is old news : About 4.5 billion years ago, when the earth cooled enough to have a solid crust.

This is a continuous beause of the formation of earth

 

 

17.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:43 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

I wasn´t referring to you with respect to religion and I just don´t agree with you that man is affecting earthquakes.   

 

Fair enough Elisabeth....

 

BTW....I was at a estate sale this weekend and saw a cute vintage little box with Texas and star shaped cookie cutters....thought of you. It was cute.....I guess you could make a bunch of Texas and star shaped cookies....I didn´t get it...

18.       lemon
1374 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 11:03 pm

 

Quoting spritzer

keep running up hill both ways lol

all i was saying is you alerting this as something new is old news : About 4.5 billion years ago, when the earth cooled enough to have a solid crust.

This is a continuous beause of the formation of earth

 

wow. you have an imagination there!

 

where the hell you took out the number 4.5 billions? outa hat? were you there when the earth cooled down?

 

how about running up hills now?

19.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 11:04 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

I guess you could make a bunch of Texas and star shaped cookies....I didn´t get it...

 

 hahaha...I have cookie cuters in the shape of the state of Texas, a flag and some stars!  I always make Texas cookies for "Go Texan Day" which is always the last Friday of the Houston Rodeo!  They go great as desert for the Chili cook off!

20.       spritzer
106 posts
 02 Mar 2010 Tue 04:06 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

wow. you have an imagination there!

 

where the hell you took out the number 4.5 billions? outa hat? were you there when the earth cooled down?

 

how about running up hills now?

The earth has been studied by geologist, paleontologist  and stratigraphers who have been able to determing the relative order and growth of rocks using radiometri dating to verify a time scale, hence my reasoning for 4.5 billion years give or take a few years. So far, rocks older than 3.0 billion years have been found in North America, India, Russia, Greenland, Australia, and Africa. The oldest rocks in North America, found in Minnesota, give a U-Pb discordia age of 3.56 billion years.

Each year the southern California area has about 10,000 earthquakes. Most of them are so small that they are not felt. Only several hundred are greater than magnitude 3.0, and only about 15-20 are greater than magnitude 4.0. If there is a large earthquake, however, the aftershock sequence will produce many more earthquakes of all magnitudes for many months.

 

as for running up hills both ways - yarim hekim candan eder, yarim hoca dinden eder {#emotions_dlg.scared}



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21.       lemon
1374 posts
 02 Mar 2010 Tue 12:03 pm

 

Quoting spritzer

 

The earth has been studied by geologist, paleontologist  and stratigraphers who have been able to determing the relative order and growth of rocks using radiometri dating to verify a time scale, hence my reasoning for 4.5 billion years give or take a few years. So far, rocks older than 3.0 billion years have been found in North America, India, Russia, Greenland, Australia, and Africa. The oldest rocks in North America, found in Minnesota, give a U-Pb discordia age of 3.56 billion years.

Each year the southern California area has about 10,000 earthquakes. Most of them are so small that they are not felt. Only several hundred are greater than magnitude 3.0, and only about 15-20 are greater than magnitude 4.0. If there is a large earthquake, however, the aftershock sequence will produce many more earthquakes of all magnitudes for many months.

 

as for running up hills both ways - yarim hekim candan eder, yarim hoca dinden eder {#emotions_dlg.scared}

 

oh, please. dont give anything like radiometric or carbon dating.

none of them accurate, and there were lots of mistakes in the past. school books were changed and re-printed (at the cost of tax-payers). when I went to school the highest number of radiometric assumed dating was below a billion. we were taught about 200-400 millions. and then it changed to 1,3 billion then it again changed and changed until it reached today´s magic number 4,5.

I wonder where its gonna stop? we are talking about big numbers here. its not -/+ 2 years.

 

as for it was always this amount numbers of earthquake is a nonsense. we are talking about recent decades. we still had good news transmission before these last two decades. plus, if you do searches every major earthquake was registered. most of cities and towns have their records about their history.

 

im really not liking your idea about faster news transmission to justify "unknown" or "hidden" quakes.

22.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Mar 2010 Tue 08:11 pm

" Chili Earthquake May Have Sortened Days on Earth....


The massive 8.8 earthquake that struck Chile may have changed the entire Earth´s rotation and shortened the length of days on our planet, a NASA scientist said Monday.


The quake, the seventh strongest earthquake in recorded history, hit Chile Saturday and should have shortened the length of an Earth day by 1.26 milliseconds, according to research scientist Richard Gross at NASA´s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

"Perhaps more impressive is how much the quake shifted Earth´s axis," NASA officials said in a Monday update.

The computer model used by Gross and his colleagues to determine the effects of the Chile earthquake effect also found that it should have moved Earth´s figure axis by about 3 inches (8 cm or 27 milliarcseconds).  

The Earth´s figure axis is not the same as its north-south axis, which it spins around once every day at a speed of about 1,000 mph (1,604 kph)."

 

Make what you will of this...I find it interesting.....

23.       spritzer
106 posts
 02 Mar 2010 Tue 09:26 pm

 

 

im really not liking your idea about faster news transmission to justify "unknown" or "hidden" quakes.

 

oh, please. dont give anything like radiometric or carbon dating.

none of them accurate, and there were lots of mistakes in the past.

 

Many books have been either rewritten or re transcribe including history books and religious books - does this mean we should not pay heed to them either ???? Televison /radio´s/phones/light bulbs / toilet paper/ the list can go on and on were invented and put into homes in the - are you saying we should all lay down like frighten sheep and give up research for cures of diseases or improvements in our life - research and methods to procure water and sustainable food - science is a ongoing process that  is why now there are less deaths with births - less deaths from epidemics and we also through media get to know what is happening much quicker

are you saying the plane should not of been invented or electricty  --- please get a grip every article of your clothing your house you live in the car or bus you drive are designed with science and a continual study to make things work better or perhaps in better harmony with the earth

 

I wonder where its gonna stop? we are talking about big numbers here. its not -/+ 2 years.

it will never stop as instrumentation is always being improved

 

as for it was always this amount numbers of earthquake is a nonsense. we are talking about recent decades. we still had good news transmission before these last two decades. plus, if you do searches every major earthquake was registered. most of cities and towns have their records about their history.

 

im really not liking your idea about faster news transmission to justify "unknown" or "hidden" quakes.

errr uhm you are using internet  which can relay your ideas from your country to mine, and I am sure you use msn messenger or the likes of it including searches on internet -  if you want to go live out in the back woods with your end stuck in the sand do so but don´t expect to be able to rant and rave here on internet

 

I write this with no hostility towards you only just telling facts that I am aware of and wish to open your mind a little

 

 

24.       lemon
1374 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 12:31 pm

 

Quoting spritzer

 

 

 

 

none of your answers were satisfying enough. I expected something more.

 

1. I made a good point there. The observations on the earthquake frequency is pretty clear. It is increasing. The thing is that you still dont get my point. Most and major quakes are registered and they are not as many as in the last two decades.

 

2. If the dating keeps changing because of measuring improvement then it means you cant rely on them and you definintely should not come up with a certain number of years as you did.

When you talk about billions years, do you use your imagination? these are big numbers. none of the rocks can exist billion years. they form pretty quick and they decay pretty quick.

you can easily fossilize your own stuff in your own garden. for that you dont need million years let alone zillion.

 

3. Which religious books have changed? give me examples. show me exact texts and tell me from what they changed to what.

 

4. My mind is  pretty  open for everything. Have you checked your mind? have you checked your facts?

 

25.       turkaturk
143 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 02:15 pm

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26.       lemon
1374 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 03:36 pm

 

Quoting turkaturk

 

 

No need to worry. There were huge earthquakes before 1900 too. In a certain time period, they were even more recent than nowadays. I clearly remember. I do. Smile

 

yes, my dear, tell me. tell me about your memories. you clear remember what? all the quakes from the last century?

27.       turkaturk
143 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 03:48 pm

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28.       lemon
1374 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 04:00 pm

 

Quoting turkaturk

 

 

That´s right, I have some flashbacks from the one before the last, too. Loud and clear. But I really like to keep these to myself, that´s what makes them special.

 

can I get your MSN? {#emotions_dlg.shy}

29.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 04:10 pm

 

Quoting turkaturk

 

 

No need to worry. There were huge earthquakes before 1900 too. In a certain time period, they were even more recent than nowadays. I clearly remember. I do. Smile

 

 Are you talking here about reincarnation ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

30.       lemon
1374 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 04:18 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 Are you talking here about reincarnation ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

reyhan, turkaturk is mine! {#emotions_dlg.shame}

31.       turkaturk
143 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 04:18 pm

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32.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 06:09 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 Are you talking here about reincarnation ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

...........it would seem reincarnation................or something else...........{#emotions_dlg.ninja}

33.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 07:21 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

...........it would seem reincarnation................or something else...........{#emotions_dlg.ninja}

 

......vampire!  Wink

34.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 08:44 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

......vampire!  Wink

 

hmmm............hadn´t thought of that one....but you do have a point....Wink....now has this thread gone off or what?

35.       turkaturk
143 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 09:19 pm

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36.       alameda
3499 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 09:23 pm

so....back on track about earthquakes.....

 

Quakes can lead to more quakes, scientists suggest....

 

 

you may want to read the comments....interesting too....Cool

 

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