In Norway they did very bad things to Romanies (Gypsies):

The number of Romanies in this Scandinavian nation is a matter of dispute, but the official representative of the nation´s Romanies puts the figure at 20,000 out of a total population of 4.3 million.

Romanies in Norway were persecuted for many decades, particularly early in the 20th century. Laws were passed in an attempt to make these nomadic people settle in one place, and several institutions tried—often using harsh methods—to forcibly assimilate Romanies into Norwegian society and eradicate their cultural heritage, including their language, music, and religion.

Many of the organizations involved in the suppression of Romany culture were run by the church or managed by clergy. The most prominent was the Norwegian Mission among the Homeless which is now believed to have been responsible for at least 40 percent of forced sterilizations of Romany women, mainly in the 1930s and 1940s.

Up to 300 women were sterilized against their will, and about 1,700 children were taken away from their mothers and adopted by other families or placed in children´s homes. This process continued until the 1970s.

Yeah, Norway´s biggest church, the (Lutheran) Church of Norway, has apologized to the nation´s Romanies—once known as gypsies—for its ill treatment of their people in the past.

Of the church´s support for the forced sterilizations, Pettersen, head of the Romany People´s National Union, said: "The church gave its ideological support to the social debate about racial hygiene [eugenics] which took place in Norway as in most other Western countries in the 1930s."

Lemon - you had a chance to read my post, Kitty deleted the first one I posted here, the one Handsom found racist.

Alameda - just like I said in my previous post - I wouldn´t mind a Gypsy neighbour of any legal profession. I doesn´t matter to me if my neighbours are artists, construction workers or clairvoyants. But I do mind having 30 people camping in front of my house or on my child´s playground, littering the place, using shrubs as their toilet and asking me for money every two minutes.

I remember what Poland looked like rigth after communism ended. We had a huge flow of Roma Gypsies - in every big city they´d occupy every corner. If you went to an outdoor restaurant, you´d be surrounded by dirty children demanding money. If you refused, they´d spit into your plate. That really works wonders for assimilation, doesn´t it? And I´m not repeating urban legends here - I´m talking about my personal experience with Gypsies. The best part was seeing a brand new shiny Mercedes collecting all those begging in the streets.

My sister in law used to teach in a school for troubled youth. Not really surprising that majority were Gypsies. They were proud of their lifestyle, of cheating, stealing and the Gypsy code. They openly told her they consider her worse than them and that only a fool would work for something that they can nick. Not to mention the fact that they would constantly call her names, and their parents would threaten her every time she was to make one of them repeat class.

Am I biased? Maybe. If you think it´s racist to dislike somebody spitting in your food because you don´t want to give them money - fine. But I´d feel the same about Poles or Brits if they acted like this.

To sum up, it doesn´t matter what ethnicity it is, if they´re breaking the law - send them home. I don´t understand why it would be France´s responsibility to take care of Romanian or Bulgarian Gypsies...oh, and I don´t think Gypsies emigrate because of racism. They do it because the money made by begging is better and the social welfare in the west offers them more than the one in their home country.

I was actually talking about Turks in Turkey. I had no bad experiences with Turks in Holland.

There is a gypsy camp in my city actually, and there is no human faeces on the ground. They use toilets. Their cars are shiny, not burning. Their rubbish is in garbage bags. I´m sure that there are gypsies in the world as you describe. Like you said, these are not the majority of gypsies, but there are people who treat every gypsy as if they are car-burning, rubbish spreading scum. That is what racism is. I don´t treat every Turk that I meet as a lying, smooth talking criminal who´s only goals are to get into my wallet or my pants. In the same way, not every gypsy should be treated as scum.

I have seen an interview with one of the people who lived in the camp-site that is also on the planning for deportion (not one of the people who left already with French-go-away money). He showed his college degree, which is useless to him anyway since nobody will hire a gypsy. This is a very real problem in countries like Romania.

i reckon that´s why they are not being considered for deportation? Are they Dutch born Gypsies or foreigners?

Actually it´s not only Gypsies who have a problem finding job in Romania, college degree doesn´t help you much if you were born in a country like this. It used to be the same in Poland. Well...it still is to a certain extent.

I am not talking about you or Dutchs but rather talking about Turks in Europe, and it seems they had bad experiences with Europeans...

It is similar how some Turks depict Kurds 

there is no way to discuss this topic anymore coz everybody know what have happened in EU but some members dont wanna understand..France are burn Gypsies home and send them out of country but Turkey is moving Gypsies to apartments instead of applying any racist applications to them. and EU used to apply pressure on Turks and our goverment for changing naturel situation of Gypsies.

http://e-dergi.atauni.edu.tr/index.php/GSED/article/view/2512

this article about gypsies in TR. Turks were accused of pressure on gypsies, now france are applying racism to them..noody can tell them stop...this is double standard and EU applications in Turkey are always double standards like armenian, kurdish issues.

ps. Im not sorry that DD´s some posts deleted. DD has to be removed from TC completely

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 are u sure Im sure Turks had problem with u

 u are comparing Turks and gypsies coz of your bad experiences..do u have any ppl in the world who wont have trouble with u...as long as u are in present mood; u will continue to have problems. u should start school from kindergarten to highest level again coz u started to behave childish again..

The gypsies I am talking about WERE born in Holland yes, THAT was my point. When we are talking about the people being deported from France, we should say "Romanians are being deported" and not say "gypsies are being deported." But somehow, being gypsy is the main feature of interest to people. It´s not like gypsies from around the world are flocking to France to poop on the street there.

 Okay, this is becoming a personal attack, so I will spell it out to you. SOME people on here defend their racist talks about gypsies, with the bad experiences they had with gypsies. If you can judge an entire people based on the few bad experiences you had with some of them, than I can call every Turk a stupid, horny, smelly, stealing idiot. But I don´t... that was my point, which you totally missed. I don´t judge Turkish people on the few idiots in the population. I am not comparing gypsies and Turkish people. I´m just saying that Turkish people would complain, if the entire world would judge them on the stupid behaviour of a few. But somehow it is accepted in Turkey to judge all gypsies on the behaviour of a few. This sounds very hypocritical to me. I know not every Turk is a hypocrite like this, but I have never before heard so many negative things about gypsies, as I did in Turkey. So, you find my complaints about hypocracy and racism childish. That is sad,.. for you. Not for me.

I also find it very sad that you don´t even understand the simple difference between "EU" and it´s members. France is an EU member, but what it has done now with the gypsies is an internal French problem. And you think that Turkey is some kind of heaven for gypsies or something? I have seen policemen beat gypsy kids with a stick in Turkey. Is that a good thing? And this is only the top of the bad behaviour I´ve seen towards them. Lucky gypsies!