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CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?
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1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 12:54 pm

http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/?iid=obnetwork

2.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 02:25 pm

I appreciate works over space and time. But human being has limited power and knowledge. There are limits over us.

O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

There will be sent upon you a flame of fire and smoke, and you will not defend yourselves.

So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

Holy Quran, Surat ar-Rahman, 33-36

Maybe not a light speed but quite close to it, transportation was took place centuries ago. But today we are struggling in a positivist science.

[Solomon] said, "O assembly [of jinn], which of you will bring me her throne before they come to me in submission?"
A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this [task] strong and trustworthy."
Said one who had knowledge from the Scripture, "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when [Solomon] saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

Holy Quran, Surat an-Naml, 38-40

3.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 03:55 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

I appreciate works over space and time. But human being has limited power and knowledge. There are limits over us.

O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

There will be sent upon you a flame of fire and smoke, and you will not defend yourselves.

So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

Holy Quran, Surat ar-Rahman, 33-36

Maybe not a light speed but quite close to it, transportation was took place centuries ago. But today we are struggling in a positivist science.

[Solomon] said, "O assembly [of jinn], which of you will bring me her throne before they come to me in submission?"
A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this [task] strong and trustworthy."
Said one who had knowledge from the Scripture, "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when [Solomon] saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

Holy Quran, Surat an-Naml, 38-40

Those parts of the holy scriptures above, that some people seem to spend 1400 years deeply pondering about, may in fact be the limitation that God has imposed upon them. 

Some others seem to have understood that jinnies have nothing to do with space travel and have concentrated on physics instead......

Who do you think has a better chance of achieving space travel ?

Very hard to tell, no ? {#emotions_dlg.holy}

 

4.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 04:37 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Those parts of the holy scriptures above, that some people seem to spend 1400 years deeply pondering about, may in fact be the limitation that God has imposed upon them. 

Some others seem to have understood that jinnies have nothing to do with space travel and have concentrated on physics instead......

Who do you think has a better chance of achieving space travel ?

Very hard to tell, no ? {#emotions_dlg.holy}

 

 

Do physics have any chance to teleport something? But jinns already did it 2000 years ago. Physics suck



Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum

5.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 05:19 pm

anyways, let avoid the religious part temporarily and concentrate on positivist science.

 

anyone and anything can reach the speed of light if you push it enough. and you need an open space to do it, and that is literary space itself. but could you exceed the speed of light? maybe... teorically seems possible but nobody experimented it yet. and nobody knows what happens the objects exceed speed of light. today this expreriment is not affordable. more important that, it requires scientific and technological information on how to stop and come back again. i guess this may be possible 50 or 100 years later.

 

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6.       AlphaF
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 17 Oct 2012 Wed 05:41 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

anyways, let avoid the religious part temporarily and concentrate on positivist science.

 

anyone and anything can reach the speed of light if you push it enough. and you need an open space to do it, and that is literary space itself. but could you exceed the speed of light? maybe... teorically seems possible but nobody experimented it yet. and nobody knows what happens the objects exceed speed of light. today this expreriment is not affordable. more important that, it requires scientific and technological information on how to stop and come back again. i guess this may be possible 50 or 100 years later.

 

 

I can hear someone say. "not without the help of jinnies, they have the experience"  {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 05:51 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

Do physics have any chance to teleport something? But jinns already did it 2000 years ago. Physics suck

 

I heard on Saudi Television, from some one introduced as a religious scholar who is a specialized expert on the subject of jinnies that,

"By their creation,  jinnies are both physically and mentally inferior to mankind; they can only harm man when a man is already in a physically or mentally distressed state."

So, if jinnies have done it,  mankind can also do it; by some other form of physics, if conventional physics wont help !

 

8.       haniagree
73 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 07:17 pm

i discussed this with my friends about this topic just few days ago, and my opinion is that it is possible for humans to travel at a very high speed, but we need a suitable equipment for that.. which may take maybe a few hundreds years worth of research.

because, i have heard stories of some highly religious people being at one place (eg istanbul) at noon and then being at another far place (eg iraq) later that day...(not a reputable source i must say {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile})

but also if you remember the story of Propet Muhammad (pbuh) who travelled from Mecca to Jerusalem to the 7 heavens in one night with God´s will.

 

i know it is possible for God to do anything, but i also believe that there must be some scientific explanation, or some way that humans can try to achieve this through physics or nuclear physics or whatever else knowledge we have...

 

and for jinnies and angels, they are made of different physical from humans (smoke and light) so their abilities are totally different from humans.

 

actually  i wanted to share my opinion from a scientific point but i guess its not so scientific afterall... {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

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9.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:34 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

I heard on Saudi Television, from some one introduced as a religious scholar who is a specialized expert on the subject of jinnies that,

"By their creation,  jinnies are both physically and mentally inferior to mankind; they can only harm man when a man is already in a physically or mentally distressed state."

So, if jinnies have done it,  mankind can also do it; by some other form of physics, if conventional physics wont help !

 

You only need inspiration from God, not physics

 

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Oct 2012 Thu 08:21 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

You only need inspiration from God, not physics

 

 

If God had to choose between a man who sat in a cave, prayed and waited for inspiration and another man who studied physics to advance the rest of the humanity, God would have chosen the second one.... 

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