http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/?iid=obnetwork

I appreciate works over space and time. But human being has limited power and knowledge. There are limits over us.

O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
There will be sent upon you a flame of fire and smoke, and you will not defend yourselves.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

Holy Quran, Surat ar-Rahman, 33-36

Maybe not a light speed but quite close to it, transportation was took place centuries ago. But today we are struggling in a positivist science.

[Solomon] said, "O assembly [of jinn], which of you will bring me her throne before they come to me in submission?"
A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this [task] strong and trustworthy."
Said one who had knowledge from the Scripture, "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when [Solomon] saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

Holy Quran, Surat an-Naml, 38-40

Those parts of the holy scriptures above, that some people seem to spend 1400 years deeply pondering about, may in fact be the limitation that God has imposed upon them. 

Some others seem to have understood that jinnies have nothing to do with space travel and have concentrated on physics instead......

Who do you think has a better chance of achieving space travel ?

Very hard to tell, no ? 

Do physics have any chance to teleport something? But jinns already did it 2000 years ago. Physics suck

anyways, let avoid the religious part temporarily and concentrate on positivist science.

anyone and anything can reach the speed of light if you push it enough. and you need an open space to do it, and that is literary space itself. but could you exceed the speed of light? maybe... teorically seems possible but nobody experimented it yet. and nobody knows what happens the objects exceed speed of light. today this expreriment is not affordable. more important that, it requires scientific and technological information on how to stop and come back again. i guess this may be possible 50 or 100 years later.

I can hear someone say. "not without the help of jinnies, they have the experience"  

I heard on Saudi Television, from some one introduced as a religious scholar who is a specialized expert on the subject of jinnies that,

"By their creation,  jinnies are both physically and mentally inferior to mankind; they can only harm man when a man is already in a physically or mentally distressed state."

So, if jinnies have done it,  mankind can also do it; by some other form of physics, if conventional physics wont help !

i discussed this with my friends about this topic just few days ago, and my opinion is that it is possible for humans to travel at a very high speed, but we need a suitable equipment for that.. which may take maybe a few hundreds years worth of research.

because, i have heard stories of some highly religious people being at one place (eg istanbul) at noon and then being at another far place (eg iraq) later that day...(not a reputable source i must say )

but also if you remember the story of Propet Muhammad (pbuh) who travelled from Mecca to Jerusalem to the 7 heavens in one night with God´s will.

i know it is possible for God to do anything, but i also believe that there must be some scientific explanation, or some way that humans can try to achieve this through physics or nuclear physics or whatever else knowledge we have...

and for jinnies and angels, they are made of different physical from humans (smoke and light) so their abilities are totally different from humans.

actually  i wanted to share my opinion from a scientific point but i guess its not so scientific afterall...

You only need inspiration from God, not physics

If God had to choose between a man who sat in a cave, prayed and waited for inspiration and another man who studied physics to advance the rest of the humanity, God would have chosen the second one.... 

No, AlphaF, that is if you had to choose.

 heheh dramatically right. But i think AlphaF supposed, God would want that. And according to what i believe and what i know from the book that was sent by Allah, i agree with AlphaF.

Read your divine book again...Especially the first page; make sure it is the Quran you are reading..

Why do birds fly but men can´t, because birds study physics more than humans? Or because God wants so? I don´t know the reason. But they still fly So why wouldn´t a caveman travel faster than light after God had given him the inspiration?

No, God created birds with wings and allowed them limited filight capacities within close proximity of mother earth, but not enough brains to strive for anything better; as far as I know, they lack both the aspiration and the brains to venture into space travel.

Man, on the other hand, was created without wings, but with brains and God´s encouragement to test the limits of his full capabilities. There are positive signs that man is following these guidelines succesfully, considering a walk in the space has already became a realty. Did you hear of a space flying bird yet?

If testing the limits of universe takes mastering of physics, by God, we should all go for it. İf you consider "kelam" and "fıkıh" as likelier sources of knowledge to allow us a  landing on Mars, so that must be the way for the likes of you !

It is only a matter of having enough gray cells to make the right decision.

I have a strong suspicion that you will find  Mr. Edison very close to the Creator up there, not because he prayed all day but because he provided mankind with light, through hard brain work, and  positive science.

A caveman can not fly faster than light, because flying faster than light takes hard work and deep knowledge of physical sciences. Only a caveman can be dumb enough to expect he will receive such a god given gift, only because he has more hair on his chest.

We humans have excellent mental capabilities thanks to our small but efficient brains. The brain has evolved over the millenias but its ultimate purpose has remained the same: to control our ancient bodies. The brain has also evolved in order to answer the gradual changes in man´s life and developed cognitive capabilities to ensure its protection and continuation.

The brain, despite all its complexity is merely a closed-circuit thinking machine. It cannot derive any conclusions unless those conclusions already exist as tangible concepts in its registry. The brain is also not very comfortable with facing its own limitations. There must always be a canned thought, a belief or a symbol to fill in for the missing parts in the said registry.

The brain tends to reject the idea of total-destruction. This self-driven thinking machine, does its magic by producing aliases to avoid dead-ends. Those dead-ends are the triggers of primeval fears. To suppress them we need a substitute the presence of which bridges the unknown with the known. This way the brain protects itself from unproductive vicious circles.

i respect biology but "evolved" part is not certain, at least for humans.

and there is more than brain. this "more" part is more important than the brain also!

The things makes our personality and consciousnes  are not a bunch of billions dumb cells in the brain. Yet we are partially connected to our brain and neural system until death.

we have soul and nafs, both unacceptable in modern biology. the closest expression of this concept may be metaphysics.
humans have the capability of doing good and bad things. soul id pure and good, and always likes good things. nafs is dirty and bad, and always likes bad things. the mind has partial capability of seperating good and bad and their results. there are some other metaphysical parts in human such as heart (not physical blood pump heart) etc...

all these have no connection to biology. and according to positivist scientists, there are no such things! But do we all have to be positivist!

Yet we are partially connected to our brain and neural system until death.

Brain and neural system......are they really our tools of perception, or could they be a kind of screen that filter (limit) our capability of perception - allowing us only a partial perception of the universe -  perhaps to protect us from what we are not ready (prepared) to perceive yet ?

Can "development of human mind" be a pre-programmed relaxation of these limitations, thus increasing human capacity to understand and perceive, initiated by knowledge and hard work?

Are those without "knowledge and hard work" destined to remain at the basic level of being a human...while some others seem able to advance?

i think our body with all neural system is a tool to see, to move, to live in this temporary world. it gives us the ability to do whatever we can able to do, otwerwise we would be like dead people. In other words, it gives us ability to act, rather than limit us.

But for some high level people, this body and life limits them, they are more free and more powerful after getting rid of this body, in other words, after death! by the will of God.

We are ready or not, we will see and understand what is right, what is wrong, what is truth after death! İnsanoğlu uykudadır, ölünce uyanır. (Humans are asleep, they wake up after death)

human capacity of understanding is not increasing, only the knowledge and technology is increasing. a man lived five thousands years ago may be more clever than a man now, but with less life comfort.

Knowledge and work is necessary but not enough. Ameller niyetlere göredir. (Deeds are by Intentions) Advancing in technology is not a criterion for total advance. You can have deadly weapons with ultra high technology after very hard working but this cannot make you an advanced human. Protecting and cleaning your heart, getting rid of bad habits and sins, helping others etc. make you an advanced human.

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we are going out of topic, this is not a good place for endless discussions.

Any dialogue that involves God is doomed for failure unless the parties share the same belief.

If so we could say this for other dialogues too. I don´t think this kind of dialogue is always destined to fail. It worked on me. (I was an atheist)   I have even some posts here in forum defending atheism. Here look at this topic I even scream "Forever science" and I say "I am only follower of science" two years ago. How weird

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46509

Let´s avoid god for some time! There may be different explanations for different beliefs. Everbody doesnt have to believe the same thing but truth is independent of the people´s beliefs. We can meet at least logic part. Logical explanations are acceptable for all of us.

man can travel faster than light, the problem is not bursting into flames or stopping. just like man can be teleported from one location to another, we just haven´t mastered the rematerialisation process yet

some should watch the series on history chanel called Ancient Aliens...  may explain a few things about what we call Gods

Dematerialisation and rematerialisation of a man will never be achieved by science. It is impossible. Only God can make such a thing happen. Science has its limits.

Science and God are not rivals, as some strange beings imagine.

We are being told that humans use only a minor fraction of their brains. Perhaps the capability to "dematerialze and rematerialize" for human beings is alreaty installed in their God created brains....only waiting to be discovered.

Those who look for it may find it....

Being of the same faith is obviously not enough either. The level of understanding that belief should also be about the same level. Belief should be based on reasoning. where reason and religious dogmas appear to be in contradiction, Quran advises in favor of reason.

MUAMMA
Evrende nice sır varsa, / Hepsinden vermiştir haber.
Kuranı yorumlayıp da; / Dincilerimiz böyle der.

Bilinmez ne hikmetse, / Hep batılı icat eder.
Bir yandan atomu çözer, / Bir yandan uzaya gider.

Bizde "nurlu kitap" varken, / Niçin karanlıktır kader ?
Acep İslam uyuklarken, / Kur’an mı okur eller ? 

Aziz Nesin.

Please someone scatter me. It is okay if you don´t bring me together back

The Alcubierre drive (or Alcubierre metric see: Metric tensor) is a speculative idea based on a valid solution of Einstein´s field equations as proposed by Miguel Alcubierre, by which a spacecraft may achieve faster-than-light travel, making travel to other stars more feasible. It is impossible for objects to actually move faster than light within normal spacetime. However, rather than exceeding the speed of light within its local frame of reference, the ship would traverse distances by contracting space in front of it and expanding space behind it, allowing it to effectively move faster than light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

PUZZLE

"All secrets of the universe

Are already in the holy book."

So say the religious experts,

When they interpret the Quran.

It is funny however, is it not,

That all discoveries come from the West ?

Atomic secrets are uncovered on one hand,

Space is discovered on the other.

How come our fate looks so bleak,

When we have this holy book ?

Or, are others also reading the Quran,

While Islam is deep asleep?

Do you know how Muslim scientists and philosophers deeply effected West in the Golden Age of Islam? It is not Islam´s fault why we are backward but it is the people´s fault who interprete it wrongly.Please don´t be captive of this orientalist bullshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

I never said Moslems are underdeveloped because of Islam. I do however blame interpretation of İslam by likes of you.

Try starting a comperative list of contributions to science, by Islamic and non-Islamic scientists respectively.

The results may surprise even you....

Remarkably, religion is a respectable way of wasting one´s and inevitably others people´s valuable time.

Come up with any valid argument that religion has a word or two to say about and you are contested, protested and instantly detested. 

I am driving my car at the speed of light and I turn on my headlights.  What do I see?

Sadly this question and all others about experiences at the speed of light do not have a definitive answer.  You cannot go at the speed of light so the question is hypothetical.  Hypothetical questions do not have definitive answers.  Only massless particles such as photons can go at the speed of light.  As a massive object approaches the speed of light the amount of energy needed to accelerate it further increases so that an infinite amount would be needed to reach the speed of light.

Sometimes people persist: What would the world look like in the reference frame of a photon?  What does a photon experience?  Does space contract to two dimensions at the speed of light?  Does time stop for a photon?. . .  It is really not possible to make sense of such questions and any attempt to do so is bound to lead to paradoxes.  There are no inertial reference frames in which the photon is at rest so it is hopeless to try to imagine what it would be like in one.  Photons do not have experiences.  There is no sense in saying that time stops when you go at the speed of light.  This is not a failing of the theory of relativity.  There are no inconsistencies revealed by these questions.  They just don´t make sense.

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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/headlights.html

Matter all around us routinely reaches the speed of light. This happens when a particle is sufficiently energized to release energy in the form of photons.