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20.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Mar 2013 Mon 08:32 pm

 

Quoting HaNNo

 

YaaaaaaaY you are back tunci

 

Sağol, HaNNo.

 

 

21.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Mar 2013 Tue 09:46 pm

 

- Esi [Ası]   var [yok] 

 

This construction comes onto verb stem to express our desire for doing something. 

It is negated with "yok".

 

 Verb stem + esi [ası] + Personal marking      +       var   [yok]

 

  git             +   esi        +    m                            +       var  

 

  gidesim  var ---> I have desire to  go 

 

 Bugün  parka  gidesim  var. ---->  I have  desire to go to the park.

                                                     [ I feel like going to the park]

 

 

 Yarın işe gidesim yok --->  I have no desire to go to work tomorrow.

                                           [ I  don´t feel like going to work tomorrow]

 

 Küçük çocuğun süt içesi yok ----> Little child has no desire to drink milk.

 

 Hiç  matematik çalışasım  yok  ---> I have no desire for studying maths. 

                                                        [ I don´t feel like studying maths]

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22.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Mar 2013 Tue 10:50 pm

 

Verb + verb  collocation 

 

Collocations are partly or fully fixed expressions.

Verb+ verb  type of collocations are ;

 

dönüp  bakmak  ---> to look back at

 

Geçmişe dönüp baktığımda sadece acıları görüyorum.

 

When I look back at past , all I see is pain[s].

 

========================

 

yakıp  yıkmak  ----> to ravage, to devastate

 

Göstericiler  ortalığı  yakıp yıktı. --->  The protesters  ravaged all around [everywhere]

 

=========================

 

vurup  devirmek  ---- >  to hit hard and knock, to gun somebody down.

 

Adam vurduğunu devirdi ---> The man knocked everyone that he hit.

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23.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Mar 2013 Wed 12:16 am

 

- mAk  durumunda  

This  newly formed rarely used form functions  like ´zorunda´ [have to].

 Verb + durumunda + personal marking


 yapmak  +  durumunda + y + ız 

 Bu  duyuruyu  yapmak durumundayız. ----> We have to make this announcement. 

 --------------------------------------

 Bir  karar vermek durumundayım ----> I have to make a decision.

 ---------------------------------------

 Faturaları ödemek durumundasın ----> You have to pay the bills. 

 ----------------------------------------

 Restoranda hesabı kendi ödemek durumunda kaldı ---> He himself had to pay the bill in the restaurant.

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24.       HaNNo
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 20 Mar 2013 Wed 10:09 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

Verb + verb  collocation 

 

Collocations are partly or fully fixed expressions.

Verb+ verb  type of collocations are ;

 

dönüp  bakmak  ---> to look back at

 

Geçmişe dönüp baktığımda sadece acıları görüyorum.

 

When I look back at past , all I see is pain[s].

 

========================

 

yakıp  yıkmak  ----> to ravage, to devastate

 

Göstericiler  ortalığı  yakıp yıktı. --->  The protesters  ravaged all around [everywhere]

 

=========================

 

vurup  devirmek  ---- >  to hit hard and knock, to gun somebody down.

 

Adam vurduğunu devirdi ---> The man knocked everyone that he hit.

 

 

Are these special verbs or it is a common rule could be applied on other verbs because it may confuse me with the -ip suffix rule

 

25.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Mar 2013 Wed 02:02 pm

 

Quoting HaNNo

 

 

Are these special verbs or it is a common rule could be applied on other verbs because it may confuse me with the -ip suffix rule

 

 

They are fixed expressions formed of two verbs by using -ip. You can form them with many other verbs as long they are used in a right context and they make sense together. 

For example ;

Gelip gitmek =  to come and go. 

Gelip gitmesi zor bir yer. ---> It is difficult to visit [to go] that place [beacuse it is far or the road is bad...etc]

 =======================

Okuyup incelemek = to read review

Raporu okuyup incelemem lazım ---> I need to read and review the report.

 

 

 

 



Edited (3/20/2013) by tunci

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26.       tunci
7149 posts
 23 Mar 2013 Sat 12:25 am

 

Functions of  buffer " n "

 

 

1. When a pronoun takes case ending, we put "n" between.

 

O - n - a   ---->  Ona ----> to him

 

O - n - dan  ----> Ondan ----> from  him

 

Bu + n + u    söyledi  --->  He said  this.  

 

 

2.  In noun phrases, just after possessive ending.

 

Selim´in   kitabı + n + ı  aldım.   --->  I took  Selim´s  book.

 

Babamın  arabası + + ı   yıkadım ------> I washed  my father´s car.

 

 

3. It is also used before the genitive ending. 

 

Kapı + + ın    kolunu  kırdım. ---->  I broke the door´s  handle.

 

Sene  + +  in    başında  bu konuyu görüşmüştük ---> In the begining of the year, we had discussed this issue.

 

Bu günlerde  para + n + ın     kıymeti yok. -----> Money has no value nowadays.

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27.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Mar 2013 Mon 12:37 am

 

Cacophony in some adjectives

 

When some adjectives  ending  with consonant ´k´, take intensifying suffix "cIk" , it sounds discordantly and inharmoniously. Therefore we see the "k"  dropping.

 

 

ufak = small ====>  ufak + cık ----->  ufacık  ----->  very small [tiny]

 

 

küçük = small  -----> küçük + cük  ----> küçücük  ---> very small [tiny]

 

 

sıcak  = hot, warm     -----> sıcak + cık   -----> sıcacık    ----> pleasantly warm, warm and cozy

 

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28.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Mar 2013 Tue 10:38 pm

 

 

Repetitions with dative ending

 

a.This type of fixed repetitions are describing especially the actions  happening in certain order. 

 

 

 

Yan  yana  ---> side by side [ side to side], next to next

 

 Sinemada  yan yana oturdular. --> They sat next to next in cinema.

 

 

Arka  arkaya ---> back to back, one after another

 

 

Alt  alta   ---> One under another

 

 

El   ele  ----> Hand in hand 

 

El   ele  yürüyorlar ---> They are walking hand in hand.

 

 

Kol  kola  ---> Arm in arm

 

b. One facing  another

 

Yüz  yüze ---> Face to face

 

Yüz yüze konuşmamız  lazım  ---> We need to talk face to face.

 

 Göz  göze ----> eye to eye 

 

Toplantıda  göz göze gelmemeye çalışıyorlardı ---> They were trying not to look at eachother in the meeting.

 



Edited (3/26/2013) by tunci
Edited (3/26/2013) by tunci

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