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New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2013 Fri 10:25 am

Demonstrations to prevent the demolition of a park on Istanbul´s Taksim Square, which is due to be replaced with a shopping mall, entered their third day with police using tear gas at the break of dawn. However, the attack seems to have backfired, triggering more participation in the demonstrations during the day, which continued peacefully and festively.
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However, the demolition of the park was halted around 8 a.m. in the morning, after Peace and Democracy Party (BDP) Istanbul Deputy Sırrı Süreyya Önder stood in front of the bulldozers, for a second day.
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Meanwhile, the main opposition Republican People’s Party announced May 30 that every day at least one CHP deputy would attend the protests and be on duty to prevent the demolition. ..
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Gezi Park is a small area, Forestry and Waterworks Minister Veysel Eroğlu said, adding that there was only a limited number of trees.
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/raid-on-occupy-taksim-park-demonstrators-triggers-outcry.aspx?PageID=238&NID=47870&NewsCatID=341

 

http://www.bianet.org/english/environment/147016-demonstrators-plant-trees-against-destruction-in-taksim-gezi-park

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Times and Turkish people have changed but the state and the people who run the state are same old same old.

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2.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2013 Fri 10:08 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22737117

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22732139

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3.       Abla
3648 posts
 31 May 2013 Fri 11:53 pm

Two questions:

 

1. Do you think it will get serious?

 

2. I never understood one thing: why would people protest against someone who has been elected in democratic elections? Why don´t they just wait for the next election and win it? (I do understand this rumbling is a result of an attempt of violently dispersing a peaceful demonstration but it looks like there is a deeper dissatisfaction behind it.) Is it the same thing that happens in Arab countries: there is the young FB generation who knows what is best for everyone and then the huge masses who just vote for the wrong people time after time?



Edited (6/1/2013) by Abla

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4.       Faruk
1607 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 12:56 am

Because people are not democratic and do not respect other people.

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5.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 12:58 am

 

Quoting Faruk

Because people are not democratic and do not respect other people.

 

I am democratic but I still dont respect others



Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum

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6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 02:34 am

 

Quoting Abla

Two questions:

 

1. Do you think it will get serious?

 

2. I never understood one thing: why would people protest against someone who has been elected in democratic elections? Why don´t they just wait for the next election and win it? (I do understand this rumbling is a result of an attempt of violently dispersing a peaceful demonstration but it looks like there is a deeper dissatisfaction behind it.) Is it the same thing that happens in Arab countries: there is the young FB generation who knows what is best for everyone and then the huge masses who just vote for the wrong people time after time?

 

1-I think they are quite serious.. They are serious because they look like people who did not protest these things before. They are not political people..Seems like arab spring Turkey never had.

2-It is slightly different.. Turkey had a long history of authoritarian states and governments. This   government was elected with the promise of change and they did some change. But they have been in the power for so long and they started to use the same authoritarian behaviour towards people.. Taksim park is one of them. They wont consult people..They think they can do anything because they have 50% of the vote.  But people have changed.. They know that they have right to protest and they are protesting for a right cause.. They want something from the state and the state is much more concerned about the money they can get from a mall in the middle of Istanbul. The government is making a huge mistake..

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7.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 02:38 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

1-I think they are quite serious.. They are serious because they look like people who did not protest these things before. They are not political people..Seems like arab spring Turkey never had.

2-It is slightly different.. Turkey had a long history of authoritarian states and governments. This   government was elected with the promise of change and they did some change. But they have been in the power for so long and they started to use the same authoritarian behaviour towards people.. Taksim park is one of them. They wont consult people..They think they can do anything because they have 50% of the vote.  But people have changed.. They know that they have right to protest and they are protesting for a right cause.. They want something from the state and the state is much more concerned about the money they can get from a mall in the middle of Istanbul. The government is making a huge mistake..

Good morning handsome. It took some time you to open your eyes.

 



Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum

8.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 02:58 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Good morning handsome. It took some time you to open your eyes.

 

 

Beg your pardon?

9.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 03:06 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Beg your pardon?

 

You know what I mean. You liberals have responsibiliy in this situation too.

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Jun 2013 Sat 03:17 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

You know what I mean. You liberals have responsibiliy in this situation too.

 

I dont think you get it.. I have serious doubts that you will ever get it..

 

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