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New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 10:30 pm |
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28 Mayıs´tan bugüne kadar 89 polis aracı, 42 özel araç zarar gördü. Bunların içinde 4 otobüs, 18 belediye otobüsü, 15 kamu aracı (kamu aracının içinde hasta taşıyan ve taşlanan bir ambulans var), 94 iş yeri, bir konut, bir polis merkezi ve 4 siyasi parti binası saldırılar sonucu zarar gördü.
Saldıranlar kimler ?
Ulusalcılar mı ?
Ya ırkçılar olabilir mi ?
Ya da faşizm karşıtı olanlar ?
Bunların içinde; hassasiyeti yüksek, kültürel bilinci, donanımı ve kapasitesi olan hangi gurupsa o sanırım...
Gerçi ben ne bilirim ??? 
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 10:33 pm |
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More on this :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22744728 (Turkey protesters return to Ankara and Istanbul streets)
..“[They say] Tayyip Erdogan is a dictator. If they call one who serves the people a dictator, I cannot say anything,” said the Prime Minister during a televised speech. Erdogan insisted the project to revamp Gezi Park would go on despite the protests. “We will build a mosque in Taksim and we do not need the permission of the CHP [Republican People’s Party, the main opposition party in Parliament] or of a few bums to do it.”..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkeys-pm-dismisses-protesters-as-just-a-few-looters-8641336.html
In a series of television appearances following the occupation of Taksim Square, Recep Tayyip Erdogan dismissed protesters as “looters”, described Twitter as a “curse” and branded anyone who drank alcohol an alcoholic.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/59d34ed8-cbab-11e2-8ff3-00144feab7de.html
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I think PM still did not understand why people are protesting and his comments are inflammatory. Or his leadership had a huge blow and he is trying reverse it.. I think people realize that what this person can do if he is a president with power.
And the other important thing is that this time, none of his deputies are coming to defend him. That is really strange. Normally many of them would say something about the events. But not this time.. He is almost acting alone!!
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 10:58 pm |
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Bu arada yalnızca birkaç kanal bu olayla ilgili sürekli yayın yapıyor. Böyle olağanüstü bir günde normal yayın akışına devam etmek iyi bir şey değil.
By the way, just a few channels are doing broadcast about these events. It´s not a good thing to go on the normal broadcasting in a such extraordinary day.
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 11:27 pm |
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Bu arada yalnızca birkaç kanal bu olayla ilgili sürekli yayın yapıyor. Böyle olağanüstü bir günde normal yayın akışına devam etmek iyi bir şey değil.
By the way, just a few channels are doing broadcast about these events. It´s not a good thing to go on the normal broadcasting in a such extraordinary day.
Delikanlı, ne kadar haber gördün İngiltere´deki olaylarla ilgili İngiliz basınında ? BBC kesti mi yayınını ? Ya da ITV ?
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 11:41 pm |
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Delikanlı, ne kadar haber gördün İngiltere´deki olaylarla ilgili İngiliz basınında ? BBC kesti mi yayınını ? Ya da ITV ?
Başka ülkelerdeki televizyonlar bizi ilgilendirmez. Burası Türkiye ve onlar Türk kanalları.
The televisions which are in the other countries aren´t our business. Here is Turkey and they are Turkish channels.
Edited (6/2/2013) by mehmet111
Edited (6/2/2013) by mehmet111
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02 Jun 2013 Sun 11:47 pm |
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Genç olmak işte bu, seviyorum onları ben 
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03 Jun 2013 Mon 01:33 am |
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All I can say is this is a big balloon and exaggeration. What kind of violence they did on you in these years? Did they arrested you, tortured you or anyone around you? Are they bombing your house or your city? If you´re a democratic person, you must be respectful for other people´s opinions and their elected government. You´re saying that you´ve been waiting for 3 elections and still no result? Well, those people had been waiting for a few decades. And they were actually suffering from the government. There were no equal rights, no freedom of speech and thought, no freedom of religion. What kind of restrictions or violence have you been exposed recently? Anybody can say anything now and live freely. And people´s life standards increased. How did people posted all those messages while protesting? Many people have smart phones now. They have computers and many other unnecessary electronics. They can sip their coffees in Starbucks, go online on their phones or computers and post messages against government and say "we are not free."
Just because your ideology is different than other people and their government who was elected by democratic election, doesn´t mean that you can provoke people and do protests, do violent acts on innocent people and police to try to "take over" the government. If you have a problem with the government, you can raise the awareness of the public and on the next elections, you can kick them out.
By the way, I was really entertained while checking facebook and twitter messages. Most of them were fake and funny. And many people didn´t even think a second and re-posted them like they are correct. They used old pictures such as an injured man from a boat accident and they posted it as the police ran over him by police panzer. Another one was showing thousands of poeple were on the Bosphorus Bridge like it´s been recently shot. However, it was also a photo from an annual marathon a few years back. There are many others like these. And because of that the situation seemed like there´s a war going between rioters and police and police was using "chemical weapons" and killing poeple. Those pictues are not proving that they´re using Agent Orange because there´s nothing written on those bullets and if the police used it, those people wouldn´t be alive by now.
I am not denying the fact that the police acted wrong at first, but the response from people was extreme. And a simple tree saving protest immediately turned into an anti-government protest quickly, mostly because those fake news. Of course, there were many provocators who did a good job and made it bigger. They also hid between people and provocate them, and they damaged properties, attacked other people and the police. They also make people think that the police is their enemy(!) and they proudly upload videos and pictures about it. I wonder what would they do, if their house was robbed, or if they were beaten, hurt, etc. Would they call the police after all these?
I say, thankfully there´s no other problems in Turkey, such as terrorism, economy, or others and when they see a tiny problem, they see it as an opportunity and turn it into a big pointless riot. But in the end, it will stop tomorrow because people will need to go to school and work on Monday morning and all will be same again.
I´m sorry, it was such a long post. Have a great Sunday!
yes those are the very same lies they used to win the hearts of the various poor people, alongside coal and pasta. thinking that theres no freedom of religion for akp people in a country with 99% Muslims would be outright dumb.
but none of this counts when terror keeps rising and people keep getting poor, country getting divided and privatization taking over. this is the explosion. those "poor" people who have beeen waiting for decades have scored the biggest thefts in this country.
if "waiting for the elctions" is the democratic way to solve things then protesting against bulslhit is also a democratic way to express oneself. but come and look at the tons of teargas, batons, bullets, stones, tomas and all the shit that these protestors are facing. nothing wouldve happaned if they werent hit first. so you think when people want to raise their voice they should wait for the democratic resolve but when government has nothing to do with democracy to begin with its ok? thats extremey subjective and one sided.
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03 Jun 2013 Mon 01:41 am |
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i mean just take a look at some of the images here http://imgur.com/a/wOrZR#0
if you think people are overreacting to that, you really havent seen what police is doing.
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03 Jun 2013 Mon 02:50 am |
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i mean just take a look at some of the images here http://imgur.com/a/wOrZR#0
if you think people are overreacting to that, you really havent seen what police is doing.
I know, I said I´m not denying that the police acted wrong at first. But this after that some violent provocators saw an opportunity and made this a chaos.
I don´t think the police would just stop against those who did these damages:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295611_656854374328364_419768984_n.jpg
This is only a few. I saw on the news this evning that in İzmir and Antalya, they damaged many properties inluding shops, banks, and other properties. And there are hundreds coming towards them with stones, bottles and other heavy things to throw and hurt. That´s just crazy!
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03 Jun 2013 Mon 01:26 pm |
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I don´t know Turkey´s politics well enough to comment here, but I have to say that Erdoğan´s remark about Twitter makes him sound completely out of touch. It reminds me of remarks made by Mubarak early in the tumult in Egypt. I am not saying that this is anything like Egypt, but a message is certainly being sent, predominantly by the young, it seems. There is a new generation rising, and perhaps Mr. Erdoğan hasn´t kept up. He may find that is his undoing. ... I am reading a biography of Atatürk right now, and it is striking to me that it is nearly always the young who drive momentous change.
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