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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Jul 2013 Thu 07:37 pm

This is only a suggestion!

I think it will be very useful to have a  functionality of ´ignoring users´ in TC.

Ie if you ignore me you dont see my posts, if I ignore a user, I dont see that user´s posts. 

2.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 11 Jul 2013 Thu 07:50 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

This is only a suggestion!

I think it will be very useful to have a  functionality of ´ignoring users´ in TC.

Ie if you ignore me you dont see my posts, if I ignore a user, I dont see that user´s posts. 

 

i think it would not comes in good results by doing so ,because the ignoring user could not avail the usefull information/post provided by that user.We should give them the chance to avail the benefits from the oppertunity rather than to ignore .

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3.       Abla
3648 posts
 11 Jul 2013 Thu 08:03 pm

No. If we only follow those people who we like we never learn to endure those who we don´t like. And there is an important lesson in the latter.

 

I prefer the old style. The one who cannot stand someone here or accept the rules can just raise the clutch and go.

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4.       Kelowna
375 posts
 11 Jul 2013 Thu 08:08 pm

 A public forum allows all. Users  must all be allowed to express  ideas and thoughts and if you don´t agree either say so without insulting the person or say nothing and move on to another topic. Sometimes we all write verbal diarrhea but sometimes we also share pertinent information.



Edited (7/11/2013) by Kelowna

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5.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:42 am

I agree. Sometimes I behave like a troll but sometimes I share useful information If someone blocked me, it would be bad for him/her in the end. I wouldn´t want anybody to be in that position   (Especially you Kelowna)



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6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 02:13 am

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.


´Users  must all be allowed to express  ideas and thoughts and if you don´t agree either say s´.
I was not suggesting to supress anybody´s ideas what so ever. All I was saying was ´freedom of blocking individuals´ ie. freedom of not seeing what they post. It is like you blocking people from sending PMs to you.

´Because the ignoring user could not avail the usefull information/post provided by that user´? Well that is my point. what if you believe the user is not posting any usefull information? what if you see single line posts/links with just rubbish from the same user again and again?


Of course these are just personal opinions but why is it wrong giving the freedom of choice to the users? It is just like facebook. You can block a user. I think it is a valid and useful function.


7.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 07:22 am

I have and do use the block function of Facebook, but Facebook is more personal, you can actually know the people there.  

Quoting thehandsom

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.


´Users  must all be allowed to express  ideas and thoughts and if you don´t agree either say s´.
I was not suggesting to supress anybody´s ideas what so ever. All I was saying was ´freedom of blocking individuals´ ie. freedom of not seeing what they post. It is like you blocking people from sending PMs to you.

´Because the ignoring user could not avail the usefull information/post provided by that user´? Well that is my point. what if you believe the user is not posting any usefull information? what if you see single line posts/links with just rubbish from the same user again and again?


Of course these are just personal opinions but why is it wrong giving the freedom of choice to the users? It is just like facebook. You can block a user. I think it is a valid and useful function.


 

 

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:39 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

This is only a suggestion!

I think it will be very useful to have a  functionality of ´ignoring users´ in TC.

Ie if you ignore me you dont see my posts, if I ignore a user, I dont see that user´s posts. 

 

Why dont you ignore us all ?

9.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:46 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Why dont you ignore us all ?

 

I dont want to be ignored by handsome. He is a very important person for me.

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10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:50 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

I dont want to be ignored by handsome. He is a very important person for me.

 

Fair enough; ask to be an exception.

You can remain in her heart for ever.

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11.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:50 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Fair enough; ask to be an exception.

You can remain in her heart for ever.

 

Her?

12.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:16 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.

 

it is very simple..you have not read all posts

for instance I dont agree TV so I dont watch it.....

and I think it cant be compared Turkish Class to facebook...(even I have an account at facebook, I dont read all posts..but I love to read here, at TC..my point of view..)

13.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:31 am

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.

 

it is very simple..you have not read all posts

for instance I dont agree TV so I dont watch it.....

and I think it cant be compared Turkish Class to facebook...(even I have an account at facebook, I dont read all posts..but I love to read here, at TC..my point of view..)

You are absolutely right elena,

Fascists come in all shapes and sizes.....and they talk about freedom of expression, empathy, love of mankind...but their sneaky suggestion of censorship always follow !{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

14.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:52 am

15.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:34 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

He he

I think you have never thought what constitues fascism..

 

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:39 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

You are absolutely right elena,

Fascists come in all shapes and sizes.....and they talk about freedom of expression, empathy, love of mankind...but their sneaky suggestion of censorship always follow !{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

Ha ha

I think you might have thought what fascism is as you have been accused of being one many times and you are one in your heart. But i think my idea was very clear:

I was not suggesting to supress anybody´s ideas what so ever. All I was saying was ´freedom of blocking individuals´ ie. freedom of not seeing what they post. It is like you blocking people from sending PMs to you.

If you think this is a censorship I think you would have to rethink it all again.

 

 

17.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:44 am

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.

 

it is very simple..you have not read all posts

for instance I dont agree TV so I dont watch it.....

and I think it cant be compared Turkish Class to facebook...(even I have an account at facebook, I dont read all posts..but I love to read here, at TC..my point of view..)

 

Yes you dont like watching TV and then switch to a ´better channel´, you switch to a less ´garbage´ channel. That is what I am trying to do here.. Having freedom to ignore some of the programmes which you think it is garbage.. Why having this ability bother you or others?

I think FB is a social media and so as TC. It is a kind of ´freedom of choice´. Freedom of choice can not be a bad thing.. can it?

Why would ´freedom of choice´ bother others?

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:48 am

 

Quoting alameda

I have and do use the block function of Facebook, but Facebook is more personal, you can actually know the people there.  

 

 

 

If we had that type of function ( in the end, it is just a button), it is your own choice to use it or not.

Why would that type of function bother users? It is just a button. You dont need to use it.

ps. It is not a red button to exterminate the world.. is it? lol Just freedom of choice..

19.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 11:47 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Yes you dont like watching TV and then switch to a ´better channel´, you switch to a less ´garbage´ channel.

 

no..you dont understand..I dont turn on it..nevermind

usualy I dislike to say the same thing twice but today....

so, another exemple: do you think I agree or  like all people around me at work..no, not at all; but we are living in a world..so...I preffer to stay alone in my lab, sometimes working alone; indeed, even I dont like some of my coleagues I cant "block" them...

20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 11:55 am

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

 

no..you dont understand..I dont turn on it..nevermind

usualy I dislike to say the same thing twice but today....

so, another exemple: do you think I agree or  like all people around me at work..no, not at all; but we are living in a world..so...I preffer to stay alone in my lab, sometimes working alone; indeed, even I dont like some of my coleagues I cant "block" them...

 

Well

 

Why would freedom of choice should bother people?

We like being here in this site. That is for sure.

I think the function I am asking for  will improve the site´s quality.   

It is nothing what so ever asking for supressing people´s ideas.

 

21.       Abla
3648 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:01 pm

Quote: thehandsom

Why would freedom of choice should bother people?

We don´t want to deprive you of the excellent chance of learning tolerance.

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22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:10 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

We don´t want to deprive you of the excellent chance of learning tolerance.

 

Well..

I dont think anybody has authority or should have authority to deprive people from anything.

But however, you have to trust people´s OWN judgment about what they want to see or not.. Even learning of tolerance is a subjective  matter as your understaning of  tolerance might be a waste of time for others as others might have had that experience already and wont add anything  valueble. 

If a function will make people more free and gives more freedom  of choice is  GOOD THING.

I still fail to understand why giving power to the people for their own use would  BOTHERS others. lol

23.       Abla
3648 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:21 pm

We are doing this for your own good hands.

24.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:36 pm

 

Quoting Abla

We are doing this for your own good hands.

 

I am absolutely sure of that..

25.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 01:41 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think people can decide what to see and what to read by themselves.

 

it is very simple..you have not read all posts

for instance I dont agree TV so I dont watch it.....

and I think it cant be compared Turkish Class to facebook...(even I have an account at facebook, I dont read all posts..but I love to read here, at TC..my point of view..)

 

One more thing to add on this.

See, this is nothing to do with you reading all the posts..

YOU WILL KEEP READING ALL POSTS as long as you like..

Nobody is trying to stop you reading the posts. That is your freedom and no one is trying to take it away from you. 

why do you think that functionality will stop you reading all the posts?

You mixed the things up..

 

26.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 01:51 pm

me....

I prefer to see all TC`s posts..to see all members...

there is everytime something to learn...our languages, our feelings...

and is a difference between blocking of someone`s PM and blocking his/her posts..bence...

if I dont want to read someone`s post I do not do..very simple

and I am not bothered by seeing her/his name here...why should I be...

it is my choice to read or not

if I dont like a person or I am not interested by her/his posts I simply scroll down....

 

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27.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 02:17 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

me....

I prefer to see all TC`s posts..to see all members...

there is everytime something to learn...our languages, our feelings...

and is a difference between blocking of someone`s PM and blocking his/her posts..bence...

if I dont want to read someone`s post I do not do..very simple

and I am not bothered by seeing her/his name here...why should I be...

it is my choice to read or not

if I dont like a person or I am not interested by her/his posts I simply scroll down....

 

Of course..

That is your choice..

is there anybody stopping you for doing that?

NO

if there was a button for ignoring user will stop you doing that?

NO

Then why are you objecting having that type of function? That is my point..

 

28.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 03:45 pm

handsome, if you would like to suggest this to admin then you might want to send him a PM.  He takes care of all the technical content and he may like your idea. 

Might I suggest in the mean time not reading posts from people who annoy you? I know it´s hard but if someone/something is upsetting you so much that you can´t even stand to look at it their posts then you should probably not read them at all.  Or is it a matter of not being able to pry your eyes away from the train wreck?  

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29.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 04:08 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

handsome, if you would like to suggest this to admin then you might want to send him a PM.  He takes care of all the technical content and he may like your idea. 

Might I suggest in the mean time not reading posts from people who annoy you? I know it´s hard but if someone/something is upsetting you so much that you can´t even stand to look at it their posts then you should probably not read them at all.  Or is it a matter of not being able to pry your eyes away from the train wreck?  

I thought that you  read these pages and evaluate the suggestions.

And yes, it is my suggestion  and that function might be quite cool and useful.

As far as your suggestion, yes of course you always have that option for not reading. But I have failed to understand about what you mean by "you can´t even stand to look at their posts then you should probably not read them at all"? what is it you are suggesting exactly?

I think the problem really is that some indivuduals are not following the rules and posting just a link with  afew words and calling it a news item or copying and pasting a paragraph from a website. As fasr as I am concerned it is a junk. Even they are not going through a little bit of effort to translate.  In my view it is lowering the quality of the posts and cluttering the view. Since we can not complain all the time to you about this like kids and you as you mentioned, do not have enough time for monitoring and letting this happen, I thought this functionality could be a solution. 

 

 

30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 05:58 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

I thought that you  read these pages and evaluate the suggestions.

And yes, it is my suggestion  and that function might be quite cool and useful.

As far as your suggestion, yes of course you always have that option for not reading. But I have failed to understand about what you mean by "you can´t even stand to look at their posts then you should probably not read them at all"? what is it you are suggesting exactly?

I think the problem really is that some indivuduals are not following the rules and posting just a link with  afew words and calling it a news item or copying and pasting a paragraph from a website. As fasr as I am concerned it is a junk. Even they are not going through a little bit of effort to translate.  In my view it is lowering the quality of the posts and cluttering the view. Since we can not complain all the time to you about this like kids and you as you mentioned, do not have enough time for monitoring and letting this happen, I thought this functionality could be a solution. 

 

 

 I did read/evaluate your suggestion and I thought I gave you a good suggestion to PM admin.  He is the one that can add this feature and it is quicker to just PM him rather than waiting/hoping he will notice your post. 

Also, it is obvious that you and other members have very different opinions.  That doesn´t make their posts "junk."  Lastly, I didn´t mention anything about you complaining like kids.  I don´t mind helping and I thought that is what I was doing by making my suggestion.

 

 



Edited (7/12/2013) by Elisabeth

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 06:30 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 I did read/evaluate your suggestion and I thought I gave you a good suggestion to PM admin.  He is the one that can add this feature and it is quicker to just PM him rather than waiting/hoping he will notice your post. 

Also, it is obvious that you and other members have very different opinions.  That doesn´t make their posts "junk."  Lastly, I didn´t mention anything about you complaining like kids.  I don´t mind helping and I thought that is what I was doing by making my suggestion.

 

 

 

 

You are one of the admins and advicing me to PM the admin after your evaluation? I think that is clearly  something is not right in this conversation

You clearly distorting what I said and I think you are far away from being impartial.

What I said was clear : "some indivuduals are not following the rules and posting just a link with  afew words and calling it a news item or copying and pasting a paragraph from a website. As far as I am concerned it is a junk.".

NOTHING WHAT SO EVER MENTIONED THAT I DISAGREED OR NOT. 

As I said, you have made that ´I am calling their posts junk because I disagree´ up and in my view, you are stirring. And you clearly dont have time to check. You yourself mentioned that. 

Others not agreeing with my suggestion? Well it seems like that. However I dont think they are able to explain why they are against it. Clearly the arguments they had, were NOT right and they all had their answers.  Since we all know that ganging happens here so often, and being in a gang is nothing to do with the truth, I will stick to my own idea : That functionality can give more freedom of choice and more freedom of choice can not be wrong. That is my truth and that is not going to change. 

 

I am sincereley not sure about how  sincere you are  when you say you are trying to help..  

 

Anyway my suggestion is out there. Just a suggestion. That is all.

 

32.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:18 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

You are one of the admins and advicing me to PM the admin after your evaluation? I think that is clearly  something is not right in this conversation

You clearly distorting what I said and I think you are far away from being impartial.

What I said was clear : "some indivuduals are not following the rules and posting just a link with  afew words and calling it a news item or copying and pasting a paragraph from a website. As far as I am concerned it is a junk.".

NOTHING WHAT SO EVER MENTIONED THAT I DISAGREED OR NOT. 

As I said, you have made that ´I am calling their posts junk because I disagree´ up and in my view, you are stirring. And you clearly dont have time to check. You yourself mentioned that. 

Others not agreeing with my suggestion? Well it seems like that. However I dont think they are able to explain why they are against it. Clearly the arguments they had, were NOT right and they all had their answers.  Since we all know that ganging happens here so often, and being in a gang is nothing to do with the truth, I will stick to my own idea : That functionality can give more freedom of choice and more freedom of choice can not be wrong. That is my truth and that is not going to change. 

 

I am sincereley not sure about how  sincere you are  when you say you are trying to help..  

 

Anyway my suggestion is out there. Just a suggestion. That is all.

 

 

 Not sure why you are so offended by my suggestion.  I do not have the technical expertise nor the authority to make changes of that nature to this website.  My powers (for lack of a better term) are very limited.  I will let admin know of your suggestion...OK? 

And BTW, I don´t like your suggestion...not because I am part of a gang but because I think you can simply choose not to read certain people´s posts.  However, despite the fact that I don´t like your suggestion, I tried to help you get in touch with someone who can actually help you with it.  I´m such a jerk, uh? {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

Also, just because I don´t like your idea doesn´t make it a bad idea.  Perhaps admin will agree with you.  I was simply stating my opinion.   

 

 



Edited (7/12/2013) by Elisabeth
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Edited (7/12/2013) by Elisabeth

33.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:04 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Not sure why you are so offended by my suggestion.  I do not have the technical expertise nor the authority to make changes of that nature to this website.  My powers (for lack of a better term) are very limited.  I will let admin know of your suggestion...OK? 

And BTW, I don´t like your suggestion...not because I am part of a gang but because I think you can simply choose not to read certain people´s posts.  However, despite the fact that I don´t like your suggestion, I tried to help you get in touch with someone who can actually help you with it.  I´m such a jerk, uh? {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

Also, just because I don´t like your idea doesn´t make it a bad idea.  Perhaps admin will agree with you.  I was simply stating my opinion.   

 

 

 

Please stop mind reading. Of course I was not offended by your suggestions.. Why would I? do you think I dont know you are not a techi?

It is nothing to do with your suggestion. It was more like you stirring and telling the things I never said. I explained what they are in the other post. (and you call it helping.. Thank you very much.  But please dont help in the future)

There is an ignore button for example and it works with the PMs only. With the same logic of yours that function would  be  unnecessary because you also have a choice there about not to read. But we know that the function of blocking users sending you PM is quite useful.

Anyway.

It was just a simple idea.

It was just a suggestion.

I dont think it is imortant.

 

 



Edited (7/12/2013) by thehandsom

34.       si++
3785 posts
 13 Jul 2013 Sat 11:33 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Not sure why you are so offended by my suggestion.  I do not have the technical expertise nor the authority to make changes of that nature to this website.  My powers (for lack of a better term) are very limited.  I will let admin know of your suggestion...OK? 

 

 

Even if you do, you probably wouldn´t consider doing it.

 

It requires changes to database design and code changes in many places. I don´t think admin would consider doing it to make one guy happy here.

35.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Jul 2013 Sat 08:07 pm

I am not sure it is possible to make anyone happy here!  {#emotions_dlg.lol}

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36.       Turkish2412
259 posts
 13 Jul 2013 Sat 11:15 pm

İ have to disagree with this idea because it is unnecessarily.This is site for learning turkish language and not facebook.Also if you put some users on ignore you may not see some useful informations by them.Just simple don´t read their posts and problem solved

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37.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jul 2013 Sun 01:18 am

 

Quoting Turkish2412

İ have to disagree with this idea because it is unnecessarily.This is site for learning turkish language and not facebook.Also if you put some users on ignore you may not see some useful informations by them.Just simple don´t read their posts and problem solved

 

I still dont understand..

It is YOUR choice for  blocking or not blocking the people. This is not a facebook. Agreed but for many of us TC is also a social media. TC is a place where we like being. You think it is unnecessary but I am sure it will be necessary for some and it will be useful. 

It is like talking about a legislation about disabled people. Normally it wont relate to us but making their life better for them does NOT take anything away from us.

It is the same. If there was  function such as ´ignore user´, NOTHING is taken away from you. That is why I fail to understand the objections. It would  just be more freedom of choice. AND "freedom of choice" IS A GOOD THING.

 

Not1: I am aware that some of people are devestated about the idea that I might block them. But I may not, if you are nice to me

Not2 :Favorite users might be a good idea too. where you see only  the posts from your favorite users.



Edited (7/14/2013) by thehandsom

38.       Abla
3648 posts
 14 Jul 2013 Sun 09:31 am

What bothers me in this idea is that if you blocked a user from your sight (which would be your free choice I agree) and saw only a part of the texts in the forum as a result many other posts would not make sense either. The texts in the forum form a textual corpus and you cannot separate a part of it (at least without seeing it) and not miss something else also. One stupid post can become a reason for a further discussion, sarcastic comments (possibly in another thread) or a luscious fight which you might not like to miss.

 

Quote: thehandsom

Not1: I am aware that some of people are devestated about the idea that I might block them.

 

 

You are joking but there is a seed ot truth here. Look at the translation requests. What is the greatest insult you can do to someone these days: delete her! It is a sneaky act, too easy to commit, too difficult to bear.



Edited (7/14/2013) by Abla

39.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 14 Jul 2013 Sun 02:30 pm

Here is a block button for you handsome. When you want to block someone come here and imagine that you are blocking him. I am sure this will give you some satistification and some peace of mind

 

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