I agree with Abla´s approach here.. No war is necessary. As long as you have the army and show that you are ´more ready´ than the others, you are making the justification for others to arm as well. Pakistan makes atom bombs because India has some; Russia sells rockets to Syria and Turkey buys some rockets to stop them etc.. So it is a circle in the end.. The result is a very good portion of budgets spared for the defense and the arms. We could cure and erase many bad/evil things in the world if that money had been spent for people´s needs. 

Are you refering to the fact that it says Turk? What would you have it say?

Nationalistic ideas have always problems. These kind of ideas were widespread after french revolution and supported in order to destroy multinational empires. after WW2, europe understood its fault and quitted nationalistic propagandas. but we copied it from france in late ottoman times and went parallel with hitler´s style. after 40000+ people died in (nationalistic) turkish-(nationalistic) kurdish conflict in last 30 years, at last, happily we started to question our policies. removing our problematic oath was our latest policy change and that is good for us.

"I dedicate my exisance to Turkish existence" (Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun) means there is a turkish existence and i am always ready to protect this existence even if i die for it.

As i said before, we are defending the country, not the turkish existence. What if i live in turkey but i am not turkish, to whom shall i dedicate my self existence? if turkey were %100 turkish, we still dont need to dedicate our existence to the turkish existence. Our education system was problematic; as a natural result of this our generations are problematic, too.

I had earlier asked:

What do you understand of "I dedicate my exisance to Turkish existence" (Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun)? Doesn´t it include dieing for it for example? If not what it (Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun) means to you that you would refrain yourself from doing it?

You said above:

"I dedicate my exisance to Turkish existence" (Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun) means there is a turkish existence and i am always ready to protect this existence even if i die for it. Well so we understand the same thing more or less...

As i said before, we are defending the country, not the turkish existence. So you don´t care about Turkish existence (it´s my conclusion) so you don´t care about living under Turkish flag (again it´s my conclusion) What if i live in turkey but i am not turkish OK maybe you are not, then you are excused but if you are... I won´t say anything further... the context speaks for itself..., to whom shall i dedicate my self existence? if turkey were %100 turkish, we still dont need to dedicate our existence to the turkish existence. Our education system was problematic; as a natural result of this our generations are problematic, too.

I guess we both love our nation and country, but our approach on how to protect it is a little bit different.

I put the country ("vatan") in the center, when you protect it, automatically the turkish existence in it will be saved besides all other minority nations.

But when we claim we are fighting for the turkish existence (or any nation´s existence) it is problematic. We should defend the country for anyone living inside it, not just for turks.

Also forcing other people to declare them as turkish, banning their native language etc. is not right, we suffered these wrong policies a lot until now.

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I support AlphaF´s approach. 

The West has trasitionally supported what they call as moderate Islam and it ferociously attacks any nationalist movement. Saddam, Qaddafi, Essad all thought about the national interests of their countries and were/have been being eradicated by the same nonpatriotic power.

Don´t buy arguments by looking at how they are packed. Patriotism can sometimes be a social defense mechanism a cement holding the entire structure to give it a chance to evolve into more advanced stages.

Remember Rome was not built in one day.

Add Makarios and Necmettin Erbakan to your list too.

I find it amazing that these two guys, fundamentalists at two different religions, had one important thing in common; they were both nationalists.

Makarios was killed, Erbakan was toppled by the West.

Sometimes the problem is not that we do the wrong things but that we continue too long doing the things that once may have been right.

Yes, but as mentioned in my message there is still an ongoing fight. Moderate Islam is still being exported and patriotic elements are still being targeted. Who is doing this and for what? We have a name for the misdeed on one end: nationalism or patriotism. What about the other end? A nation gives reaction in great numbers and in great vigour and this only happens when it is jeopardized.

I think moderate islam´s antidote has never been racism and it never will be.

Or the fight in Turkey was never been about islam vs nationalism-racism.

It was just about returning back to normal!!  We have been forced to wear a straight jacket for so long. Europen countries got rid of these things long time ago.

Many things we lived with were never been "normal". Most of them were added into our lives in the era when there was a single party or at the times during the coups..

Many things are changing..

The army has been removed from the politics? what happened? did we all die? NO.

They removed andimiz.. did Turkey collapse because of this? NO

First women entered the parliment with their head scarves a few days ago.. is Turkey ruled with Sheria now? NO

So less racism is always better..

Andimiz was removed in this context and it is a good thing for all of us..