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60.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 04:46 am

Really, this is silly. I asked you what the problem is and why you call the oath racist, you didn´t answer. I asked you if it was the name Turkey you find unacceptable, no answer. 

Most countries have settled on a name for their country. Many of the names actually are derived from some tribe or another, but we don´t hear the people getting upset and calling the names racist. Here, take a look:

Endonyms and most exonyms for Poles and Poland derive from the name of the West Slavic tribe of the Polans 

The name "England" is derived from the Old English name Englaland, which means "land of the Angles". The Angles were one of the Germanic tribes that settled in Great Britain during the Early Middle Ages. 

The name "France" comes from the Latin Francia, which means "country of the Franks". There are various theories as to the origin of the name Franks: one is that it is derived from the Proto-Germanic word frankon which translates as javelin or lance as the throwing axe of the Franks was known as a francisca.[20] Another proposed etymology is that in an ancient Germanic language, Frank means free as opposed to slave.

Hungary, Atilla the Hun

In the 7th century, Bulgar tribes (likely of central Asian Turkic origin), migrated to the lower courses of the rivers Danube, Dniester and Dniepr under the leadership of Asparukh. After 670 he moved into the Balkan Peninsula with a horde of 50,000 Bulgars across the Danube and in 680 severed Scythia Minor from the Byzantine Empire. A peace treaty with Byzantium in 681 and the establishment of a permanent capital at Pliska south of the Danube marked the beginning of the First Bulgarian Empire. The Bulgars gradually mixed up with the local population, adopting a common language on the basis of Slavonic."

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

When there is an opportunity for racism you never fail to show up lol

I think, it is like a little monster in you, trying to come out like in the movie.......

 

 

 



Edited (11/21/2013) by alameda

61.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 10:38 am

 

Quoting alameda

Really, this is silly. I asked you what the problem is and why you call the oath racist, you didn´t answer. I asked you if it was the name Turkey you find unacceptable, no answer. 

Most countries have settled on a name for their country. Many of the names actually are derived from some tribe or another, but we don´t hear the people getting upset and calling the names recist. Here, take a look:

Endonyms and most exonyms for Poles and Poland derive from the name of the West Slavic tribe of the Polans 

The name "England" is derived from the Old English name Englaland, which means "land of the Angles". The Angles were one of the Germanic tribes that settled in Great Britain during the Early Middle Ages. 

The name "France" comes from the Latin Francia, which means "country of the Franks". There are various theories as to the origin of the name Franks: one is that it is derived from the Proto-Germanic word frankon which translates as javelin or lance as the throwing axe of the Franks was known as a francisca.[20] Another proposed etymology is that in an ancient Germanic language, Frank means free as opposed to slave.

Hungary, Atilla the Hun

In the 7th century, Bulgar tribes (likely of central Asian Turkic origin), migrated to the lower courses of the rivers Danube, Dniester and Dniepr under the leadership of Asparukh. After 670 he moved into the Balkan Peninsula with a horde of 50,000 Bulgars across the Danube and in 680 severed Scythia Minor from the Byzantine Empire. A peace treaty with Byzantium in 681 and the establishment of a permanent capital at Pliska south of the Danube marked the beginning of the First Bulgarian Empire. The Bulgars gradually mixed up with the local population, adopting a common language on the basis of Slavonic."

 

 

 

Nothing is silly here.

I explained zillion times why our oath was racist. You had your answers zillion times.

We are not going back and repeat them again!!

Th conclusion is as cyristal : ´our oath was racist and it has gone for good´.

That is the bottom line.

My comments above were directed to an individual(s) and not a generic comment at all anyway. 

And for the nationalism vs racism: No racist call themselves racist. They all call themselves patriots or nationalists.. Important things is to find the line between. 

62.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 10:49 am

 

Quoting alameda

Really, this is silly. I asked you what the problem is and why you call the oath racist, you didn´t answer. I asked you if it was the name Turkey you find unacceptable, no answer. 

...

 

 

"Türküm, doğruyum, çalışkanım. Yasam, küçüklerimi korumak, büyüklerimi saymak, yurdumu, budunumu özümden çok sevmektir. Ülküm, yükselmek, ileri gitmektir. Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun.

 

I guess it´s because of the "Türk" word in it. So saying "I am a Turk" is racist by his rationale.

 

Funny thing is he´s the one who says "I am a Türk" unsolicitedly zillion times in his posts in this site. Speaking of myself, I have never said "I am a Türk" unsolicitedly here.

63.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 11:46 am

I think it should also be noted the old oath was pointless and childish too.. Forcing young students  scream  that ´I am honest´ for 10s of years every morning  did not help anything..

Turkey is still one of the worst countries in Europe as far as corruption and bribery are concerned!!

 

64.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 12:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think it should also be noted the old oath was pointless and childish too.. Forcing young students  scream  that ´I am honest´ for 10s of years every morning  did not help anything..

Turkey is still one of the worst countries in Europe as far as corruption and bribery are concerned!!

 

 

IT WAS WRITTEN FOR CHİLDREN, AGOP !

ANLAYABİLDİN Mİ ?

 

65.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 12:19 pm

 

Quoting si++

I guess it´s because of the "Türk" word in it. So saying "I am a Turk" is racist by his rationale.

 

Nothing wrong to say that "i am a turk". Saying it every morning by a crowded chorus is extreme and not necessary. Forcing non-turks to say it is unlawful.



Edited (11/7/2013) by ikicihan

66.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 01:19 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

IT WAS WRITTEN FOR CHİLDREN, AGOP !

ANLAYABİLDİN Mİ ?

 

Yes..

Implemented  by a racist person to make childeren as racist as himself in the times when racism was quite common...

But however, it is not a surprising thing that it is defended as if there is no tomorrow by a racist person like you. have you decided about the colour yet? Select one for  the other one too.. 

67.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 01:28 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Yes..

Implemented  by a racist person to make childeren as racist as himself in the times when racism was quite common...

But however, it is not a surprising thing that it is defended as if there is no tomorrow by a racist person like you. have you decided about the colour yet? Select one for  the other one too.. 

I am glad you managed to understand it was written for children Agop....You are improving!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

68.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 01:33 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

I am glad you managed to understand it was written for children Agop....You are improving!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

Have you selected your colour? Since you seem to be enjoying being called a racist after commiting hate crimes, I would go for a cheerful colour.

How about green? lol

 



Edited (11/7/2013) by thehandsom

69.       Kelowna
375 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 04:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Have you selected your colour? Since you seem to be enjoying being called a racist after commiting hate crimes, I would go for a cheerful colour.

How about green? lol

 

geyik muhabetti .........................

j



Edited (11/7/2013) by Kelowna

70.       burakk
309 posts
 07 Nov 2013 Thu 04:55 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Nationalism, patriotism and racism are all perceived differently depending on one´s point of view. For example if you are a lefty you can take the freedom of grouping these concepts and using them to make your word salad appear richer. How can you lose an argument if anyone who disagrees is automatically a racist?

If you are a conservative and if you are adressing to a group of so called leftists, you will group red, communist, socialist, anarchist and infidel together. You don´t have to bother about the differences among those.

 

Today the biggest patriotic nation in the world is the USA followed by England, France and Germany. They are against all this word salad and they have no interest in wasting their time with name calling. Instead they safeguard their national interests brutally.

 

yeah exactly. this is one of the reasons why i get so angry in these subjects. because strong nations are immune to these word salads. because people who are trigger-happy with this name callings towards smaller countries are afraid to do the same to usa england france etc. its frustrating.

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