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getting married in turkey
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:45 pm |
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Dear Elham,
I DID reply to you about this ring. Please see my reply below  Perhaps YOU should be in less of a hurry to post a sarcastic reply 
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting elham: sex with the husband only, all religions say this, did you hear ring chastity, which some students wearing it in England , what do you think why they wear it? |
Of course many (not all!!) religions say the same Elham . They are all interpreted by MEN and they must protect themselves from jealousy!! You will find that Christians used to have a similar sexist "law" which applied only to women. It no longer exists in mainstream Christian religions and there is no evidence in the Bible (although also written by MEN) that it ever existed either
Yes I have heard of this "cult" of wearing a Chastity Ring. What it ACTUALLY means is that you have so little self respect or control over your own body that you will entrust it's use to your future husband. You are giving your future husband power and control, the right to abuse and rape you, do what the hell he likes to you.
I would respect anyone who chose to remain a virgin, but I cannot respect someone who does this in order to present their body as a "gift" to their husband. Deciding to be a virgin doesn't require a ring...the ring is a sinister, santimonious kind of perceived oneupmanship over people who made different choices.
This Chastity Ring merely shows that the wearer does not have the intelligence or enough respect for themselves to make decisions about their own body after marriage. |
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 02:19 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Dear Elham,
I DID reply to you about this ring. Please see my reply below Perhaps YOU should be in less of a hurry to post a sarcastic reply
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting elham: sex with the husband only, all religions say this, did you hear ring chastity, which some students wearing it in England , what do you think why they wear it? |
Of course many (not all!!) religions say the same Elham . They are all interpreted by MEN and they must protect themselves from jealousy!! You will find that Christians used to have a similar sexist "law" which applied only to women. It no longer exists in mainstream Christian religions and there is no evidence in the Bible (although also written by MEN) that it ever existed either
Yes I have heard of this "cult" of wearing a Chastity Ring. What it ACTUALLY means is that you have so little self respect or control over your own body that you will entrust it's use to your future husband. You are giving your future husband power and control, the right to abuse and rape you, do what the hell he likes to you.
I would respect anyone who chose to remain a virgin, but I cannot respect someone who does this in order to present their body as a "gift" to their husband. Deciding to be a virgin doesn't require a ring...the ring is a sinister, santimonious kind of perceived oneupmanship over people who made different choices.
This Chastity Ring merely shows that the wearer does not have the intelligence or enough respect for themselves to make decisions about their own body after marriage. |
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yes, you are right , i was hurry so didnt read your reply, but i didnot say a sarcastic reply
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 03:17 pm |
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sex and make love really different things,and you can see the virginity in make love,while sex doesn't know any value...)
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 04:50 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: sex and make love really different things,and you can see the virginity in make love,while sex doesn't know any value...) |
I agree that sex and "making love" are different things. To say that making love is only possible with a virgin is ridiculous!! You, along with so many people, think that sexual freedom = promiscuity. Not so. Sexual freedom means that YOU own your body and make decisions about it. It does not belong to another person by right.
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:00 pm |
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For all practical purposes, yes.....
In fact, a little previous experience in the gentlemen may help both parties,
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:01 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: For all practical puposes, yes..... |
Meaning?
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:03 pm |
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the answer is in your private mail
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:10 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: the answer is in your private mail |
You answer refers only to parentage of children. AlphaF I think you misunderstand me. Your concern is that sex before marriage means that there may be doubt over the parentage of children? This is ridiculous!
You think "freedom" means that once married, women would continue to sleep with other men?!?!?! Its a fact that the most common reason for marriages ending is because the MAN commits adultery! If I made the decision to get married it would be because I loved that person and the very fact I loved them would prevent me from having sex with another. I would not need any "rules" or "laws" to make me do this!
There is more love and sincerity in fidelity by CHOICE than by FORCE!
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:15 pm |
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You missed the point...
Virginity is important and expected of a lady in societies where the father of, at least the first born, is important.
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:29 pm |
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FIDELITY BY CHOICE OR BY FORCE
Fidelity used to be a requirement from both partners, in a relation.
It now seems optional in highly civilised societies.
It will not surprise me at all, if infidelity is enforced in near future.
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13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:29 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: You missed the point...
Virginity is important and expected of a lady in societies where the father of, at least the first born, is important.
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Do you think any man having had premarital sex has the right to expect of the other side to be virgin?
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