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30.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 04:36 pm

I guess I missed those comments. I didn't realize people were being so harsh here. Maybe we could set up a forum titled "Anger Management".

31.       sophie
2712 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 04:57 pm

Quoting Trudy:

I would love to discuss politics and religion. I do think a separate forum is needed for that and, more important, quite good moderation to prevent those things you quoted.



There is nothing wrong with discussing politics and religion, except from the fact that if you don't know how to discuss, then tempers get hot and people get nasty. I never agreed with this specific rule of this site, but cause of the reasons I mentioned above, I ended up thinking that it was probably a wise one. What I ve been reading lately in the forums, came to justify my thoughts. Anger, insults and narrow mindness were all over the posts and the result is really disappointing, not to say horrible.

As for learning about different countries than Turkia, again is acceptable. But this is a Turkish forum. And when the posts about Turkish culture or language are dramatically decreasing, then it gets annoying to read new posts about other countries in a Turkish forum.

Like someone mentioned above, I signed up here to learn about Turkia. About places to travel and traditions to learn about. Not to debate about Bush and Sadam. Yes right. I can just ignore those threads and that's what I have been doing for months. I became a vegetable, typing only 'songs for my love', as there was nothing else interesting to do here. But I can't ignore those threads anymore, cause suddenly they are EVERYWHERE!

Anyway, since the freedom of speech in this website is so much that it becomes annoying, I thought that I could also post my humble opinion.

Like twinny says...I rest my case...

32.       derya
1360 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 05:04 pm

I absolutely second your opinion sophie.Since the old memebers of the club and the moderator is somehow missing recently everything became such a mess.Everybody knows which aenigma is refering to but since we dont have the power and its beyond our dignity to deal with those people we can just bear their offends and rude remarks.Before couple of days I too had a minor argument with the so called member and decided to stop entering this site.Then after that I reconsidered my decisson because i thought:Well,I guess if we all do like this the site we soon be `polluted` by rude people and will extinguish.So better not pay attention to small talks,keep our head straight and go on.Best regards to everybody who loves this country and respects all her friends!

33.       Capoeira
575 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 05:58 pm

I agree with teaship...it is important to debate political issues.

I am a 'new' member and like it here. I love to hear others' opinions. I think that a separate forum would be lovely to participate in, if it will keep the 'old' members happy.



34.       Rain
0 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 06:12 pm



how nice talkng fo people...Everybody perfct in this forum..no 1 did mistake or rude.. all of you doing depdate very nice.. only i rude and i type all the english words wrong..

Dear admin open this website to let people learn smtng about turkey turkish culture and people...he alrdy did the miracle.. now turn fo people here who really want smtng...is tht hurt to talk about usa or other country?..so sophia mean im from greece but you cant learn myculture or other country people culture...if i cant ask or deptade smtng wht the website point..

so from your mean..no 1 can write english here coz its turkish website..holy hell..

The miracle of people.. if they know how to use mind to teach smtng..Like turkish said AZ LAF COK IS..
This is the problem in this website...who dunno smtng talk bullshit about turkish..who wanna learn about turkish here is the website people share their opinion and deptade ..i dont thnk so the problem is here people type smtng wrong this is their english..even im turkish i not usng rght turkish grammer and not so many people using grammer in turkey whn turkish people are talkng..
Ladies alwys ask help from admin did they look theirslf?i dont thnk so..they only know how to open post and type smtng to make people fght..(some in this forum)
if any1 dont like me this is their business..no 1 force them to read mypost and answer..and some 1 still posting and saying to me you are agresive and idiot..yaf if im idiot or not respct other people why u open post and still write?if im nothng why u dare to write?i feel so strange..i see tht got problem with me still wanna fght wth me..
This website really so excillent if you know how to use it..and no1 force people stay here..if you dont like ..wich website is good can go there.. but u cant say tht here is bad.. coz u not make it..u not spend your time to do all those things but admin did..
if you need love from people u have to give sme..if you need respct u should show sme.. coz 1 hand cant make sound you have to use 2 hands to make it..


35.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 06:56 pm

36.       Capoeira
575 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 07:29 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

In my mind, Turkey is the place where the east and the west meet. Turks have found a way to blend and embrace both ways of thinking. I think a Turkish website is the perfect place for debates. No great culture can exist without hearing all sides. As a country Turkey has managed to do this. There is an almost perfect balance in Turkish culture. If you walk in the streets of Istanbul, you will hear church bells and calls to prayer. You will see women in burkas and women in western cloths. I have read a lot of posts lately and many of them are very politically charged but people need an outlet to express themselves and nobody is forced to respond. The world is a crazy place. We are all on this site for one reason..........in some way we ALL love Turkey. For whatever reason, so many people from so many cultures have one thing in common and I think that is beautiful.

I agree with you 100%. Well said, these are my exact sentiments!

37.       peeda
10 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 07:44 pm

I realy wish to this site remain to be just about language and other turkish stuffs, I'm begginer there and i came just to try learn language throug other one not my native.
If you have doubt, to remain here, please don't, just stay!

38.       heidilovesosman
208 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 08:16 pm

im gonna stay on this site because of the reason i want to learn turkish so i hope thats alright with everyone and im sorry if my spelling is bad but i cant help it!!!!

39.       sophie
2712 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 08:50 pm

Quoting Rain:

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Dear Rain, I think that you got all of it wrong. You are right in one thing though. That admin offered us a miracle here, by creating this website. And this website is what we are trying to save. No one is against debates. And no one is against learning things from a different culture than his own. That’s why we are all here. To learn about Turkia and it’s people and to understand, adapt or reject parts of Turkish culture, according to our own traditions and beliefs. Cultural information is exchanged here since the day this website appeared.

No one is forced to agree with what is been said in the forums, and never all of us agreed in something. Each one had his own opinion and we were never afraid to tell it. Discussions and disagreements were always arising, but we knew how to respect each other, even when our beliefs were completely different.

As you might have noticed, I m not that kind of person, to be going around, insulting the others. I’ve always respected all the members (except from one but thank God he is not around for quite some time now) and that’s why I ask the same respect from them. As for you, even when everyone else was against you, I saw a right point in what you said and wasn’t afraid to point it out. So please don’t talk to me about respect or objectivity.

You say that I m from Greece, so probably I don’t want to learn about other countries. But hey, the fact that I am here defending a Turkish website, isn’t already proving the opposite?

What I said, is that learning about U.S. and U.K is something that is acceptable, but to a point. If I wanted to learn about Bush or Blair, I would visit an American or a British forum. I wouldn’t be asking about them here. Moreover, if I needed to hear about crime in the U.S. I would visit the CNN’s web page. Wouldn’t that be wiser? It’s like turning your TV to a fashion channel, to learn about the wild life in the African jungle.

As for my comments about the way people write, I m sorry but I m not going to apologize. I respect every foreign member who is trying to learn either English or Turkish. But I cannot accept that a British citizen doesn’t bother to spell correctly words like “nothing” or “I know”, when I try hard to type right in a language that is not my own. And please consider that this is a “language class” for foreigners that want to learn Turkish, or for Turkish people that want to learn English. The kind of language that is used by some of the members here, is helping none of the above.

40.       sophie
2712 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 08:56 pm

Quoting heidilovesosman:

im gonna stay on this site because of the reason i want to learn turkish so i hope thats alright with everyone and im sorry if my spelling is bad but i cant help it!!!!



Did you notice that when you really want, you can really type well? This post is paradise, compared to the previous ones you have posted. I think that you can do great when you try just a little bit

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